I think the Spurs are done for the offseason

[Libri]

[DPG21920]

I am cool with them making no more moves. At this point, they seemingly won't get anyone that is a difference maker, so let some things play out and lets see some of the new blood do work

[8FOR!3]

CROFL

[ohmwrecker]

I'm cool with the roster as is, but I hope they invite some real talent to training camp to put some pressure on the "bubble" guys.

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Ok, updated the OP again, now with salary information from ESPN. That includes what looks to be the correct amount for Bonner's first season in his new deal. The only contract missing there was Neil's but we already know the actual terms thanks to timvp and we also know that a higher sum actually counts against the lux tax.

Spurs are $144,310 over the cap now (without counting Jerrels' $854,389), so unless Anderson's contract is not for the 120% of the rookie scale, they're going to have to lose a little weight in one of the unguaranteed contracts in order to stay below the lux tax line.

This probably means they won't sign Gist or a sixth big in general (Gist could sign with the Toros, though).

They could still keep Gee out of camp, but as the year progresses, so long as they're not decimated by injuries to their wings, they could end up waiving him at some point (they did this with Hairston two seasons ago; then signed him back a few months later, though I get the sense that if they did that with Gee, another team would claim/sign him) in order to stay under the tax.

Ultimately, Gee and Gist, if they were to make the roster, would still likely be Toros fodder.

The thing with Gee is, intriguing a project as he is, so long as Hairston established himself somewhat next season, there isn't going to be a role for Gee not just next season, but going forward either. That and not wanting to pay the tax (specifically for a player who probably doesn't have a future on the team) will probably lead to the Spurs cutting ties with him at some point next season.

[Sean Cagney]

I'm not worried about LA. .

Then your flat out crazy, and I am a Spurs fan and didn't bother reading the rest of that there. Not worried about the two time champs? Three finals in a row? That makes sense. I hate when some fans put on blinders and do this here, come on man they are the team to beat.

[lurker23]

As far as the financial part of this thread goes, I only see 2 realistic outcomes:

1. The Spurs have committed to paying the luxury tax, which they'll indicate by signing one or two more vets, or

2. The reported numbers are off by a few hundred thousand, and the Spurs are cozily under the tax with 14 players. Most likely this means Bonner's contract is slightly lower, and/or they got Anderson to accept less than 120%, at least for year 1. I think this is the most likely scenario.

A 3rd alternative, that they'll be forced to carry only 13 players, just doesn't seem likely considering the massive number crunching that has taken place.

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As far as the financial part of this thread goes, I only see 2 realistic outcomes:

1. The Spurs have committed to paying the luxury tax, which they'll indicate by signing one or two more vets, or

2. The reported numbers are off by a few hundred thousand, and the Spurs are cozily under the tax with 14 players. Most likely this means Bonner's contract is slightly lower, and/or they got Anderson to accept less than 120%, at least for year 1. I think this is the most likely scenario.

A 3rd alternative, that they'll be forced to carry only 13 players, just doesn't seem likely considering the massive number crunching that has taken place.

I think the Spurs will pay the tax no problem if it's for a difference maker or even for a Thomas-esque acquisition (meaning an established veteran, with a reasonable contract, that doesn't have a bunch of years left, who fills their biggest need).

But I don't think they'll pay it for Gee. Like I said, that doesn't mean he won't make the team out of camp (he probably will), but will he last the whole season if he's the difference between paying the tax or not? My guess is no.

[lurker23]

I think the Spurs will pay the tax no problem if it's for a difference maker or even for a Thomas-esque acquisition (meaning an established veteran, with a reasonable contract, that doesn't have a bunch of years left, who fills their biggest need).

But I don't think they'll pay it for Gee. Like I said, that doesn't mean he won't make the team out of camp (he probably will), but will he last the whole season if he's the difference between paying the tax or not? My guess is no.

Agreed. I don't think anyone thinks the Spurs are high enough on Gee to pay $3-5 million on him.

[mountainballer]

btw. tax. no need for nitpicking at this point in the 10K region trying to figure out if they will pay tax or not.
the crucial point will be at the end of the season and not now. there are quite a few options to bring down the payroll during the season or at deadline, if the team makes it a priority. at this point they can also go over the tax for a million or two, if they think this makes them better immediately or keeps them some talents they want to evaluate for some months.
that's why I don't think we will see decisions regarding either Gee or Hairston or Temple etc. those who will be cut are cut because the FO don't see a future for them with the Spurs.
however, I still think they will sign a veteran wing (Bogans might still be the front runner) and/or a veteran combo forward. (in the mold of Haislip). I even wouldn't rule out the signing of a true big. (like Ratliff was).

again. I think they are done when talking about the 1-8 spot of the rotation. beyond that point we will see some minor moves. (which this desperate forum will still discuss as if it was the difference between contending for the le or missing the PO)