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    If you can be born gay, straight, or bisexual, does that mean you can be born Republican or Democrat? Liberal or conservative? I think it's a huge copout and lazy excuse when gay people say I was born this way. When they say it like that, it comes off like they are saying they are being forced to be gay and do not enjoy it when in fact most gay people enjoy being gay and are proud of it.

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    Would you say you were you born straight?

    Do you enjoy it?

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    You may be onto something. Let's see if there's more sexual behavior with the other mammals on the earth! It could be environmental.

    When you go from zero representation in society, in the shadows, to gaining recognition you are bound to be more aware of the fact that these people exist. Acceptance of this lifestyle has gone through the roof and that causes people to freely admit it.

    Let me ask you a question: What is your concern? Are concerned about procreation and survival because 90% of all human beings are hetero. Slice some of that 10% into bisexuality, about 4%. That's 6% of all human beings. That's a large enough number, but remember, not all of them are allowed out of the closet.

    Is your concern moral decay? Because if it is, the argument has been used every single time a minority gets recognized with respect by the majority. Your grandparents made this argument about African Americans.

    Is your argument about the physical act? Because all sex is messy and smells and it's still enjoyable. I hate being with people who have jock itch. It turns me off. I hate S&M. I think it's disturbing to mix dominance and violence with sex. Feels too much like rape. So what? It's just another hole and another thrust. And some heteros do it too.

    Is it because you cannot imagine being with a member of your sex the same way you are with the opposite? Because they have as much problem imagining the same thing. Hopefully, they don't hate you who you are intimiate with.

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    You may be onto something. Let's see if there's more sexual behavior with the other mammals on the earth! It could be environmental.

    When you go from zero representation in society, in the shadows, to gaining recognition you are bound to be more aware of the fact that these people exist. Acceptance of this lifestyle has gone through the roof and that causes people to freely admit it.

    Let me ask you a question: What is your concern? Are concerned about procreation and survival because 90% of all human beings are hetero. Slice some of that 10% into bisexuality, about 4%. That's 6% of all human beings. That's a large enough number, but remember, not all of them are allowed out of the closet.

    Is your concern moral decay? Because if it is, the argument has been used every single time a minority gets recognized with respect by the majority. Your grandparents made this argument about African Americans.

    Is your argument about the physical act? Because all sex is messy and smells and it's still enjoyable. I hate being with people who have jock itch. It turns me off. I hate S&M. I think it's disturbing to mix dominance and violence with sex. Feels too much like rape. So what? It's just another hole and another thrust. And some heteros do it too.

    Is it because you cannot imagine being with a member of your sex the same way you are with the opposite? Because they have as much problem imagining the same thing. Hopefully, they don't hate you who you are intimiate with.
    If you're trawling for the unknown 10-20% of people who want to get with someone, I guess it's a valid question... Sad but true.

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    If you're trawling for the unknown 10-20% of people who want to get with someone, I guess it's a valid question... Sad but true.
    Could you clarify? There are several meanings to the word Trawl and I don't know what question you are referring to.

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    Honestly, I could care less about gay people. I think it's a little weird but if you want to be gay then go ahead, I'm not gonna stop you. I just sometimes like to with people that are hardcore about political causes/movements because it's interesting and fun to see their reaction and to see if they really do believe in what they are fighting for.

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    Honestly, I couldn't care less about gay people.

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    I was born gay and those of you who doubt it are not so you will never understand it. Were you born heterosexual? Idiots.

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    If being gay is okay and normal, then why do some gay people come off like they're being forced to be gay when they say "I was born this way". If you're gonna be gay, be gay and be proud of it. Don't pussy out on it.

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    If being gay is okay and normal, then why do some gay people come off like they're being forced to be gay when they say "I was born this way". If you're gonna be gay, be gay and be proud of it. Don't pussy out on it.
    Were you born straight?

    Do you enjoy it?

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    do gay people walk around and randomly say "i was born this way"?

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    sons the gay lifestyle is a personal choice, a sexual fantasy that should be not legally recognized. absolutely nothing good can come out of a love affair between a man and another man or a woman and another woman other than sexual satisfaction (not to mention how much more common STD's and aids are in the sexual community). I personally could careless if someone wants to choose that lifestyle because its none of my business, but we as country shouldn't have to legally recognize a gay couple as anything more than just that ... a gay couple. Now many of them are wanting to adopt children and raise them in their gay lifestyle.

    Once gay marriage is completely forced upon the rest of the country by the federal government then society is going to move towards bestiality and attempt to argue that it is perfectly ok to be in love with a dog or a sheep and that no one should be denied love! MTV and other liberal media outlets will jump on that bandwagon as well and shove it down our throats until many of you will actually begin to think you're ignorant for not approving of it! sexuality is a sexual lifestyle choice and preference, not something that should be honored or legally recognized by the government.
    Last edited by BRHornet45; 08-04-2010 at 01:44 PM.

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    Does no one remember gay chic from the mid-70's through the mid-80's. Nothing new here.

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    NO

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    sons the gay lifestyle is a personal choice, a sexual fantasy that should be not legally recognized. absolutely nothing good can come out of a love affair between a man and another man or a woman and another woman other than sexual satisfaction (not to mention how much more common STD's and aids are in the sexual community). I personally could careless if someone wants to choose that lifestyle because its none of my business, but we as country shouldn't have to legally recognize a gay couple as anything more than just that ... a gay couple. Now many of them are wanting to adopt children and raise them in their gay lifestyle.

    Once gay marriage is completely forced upon the rest of the country by the federal government then society is going to move towards bestiality and attempt to argue that it is perfectly ok to be in love with a dog or a sheep and that no one should be denied love! MTV and other liberal media outlets will jump on that bandwagon as well and shove it down our throats until many of you will actually begin to think you're ignorant for not approving of it! sexuality is a sexual lifestyle choice and preference, not something that should be honored or legally recognized by the government.
    you're in' insane!

    btw, let em do what they want. who gives a as long as they aren't doing you.

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    sons the gay lifestyle is a personal choice, a sexual fantasy that should be not legally recognized.
    A sexual fantasy? We're not genetically predisposed to S&M and the animal kingdom practices sexuality, especially other mammals.

    absolutely nothing good can come out of a love affair between a man and another man or a woman and another woman other than sexual satisfaction
    Love can come out of it. Responsibility can come out of it. Just like a hetero relationship.

    (not to mention how much more common STD's and aids are in the sexual community).
    The sexual community includes promiscuous and cheating closet-cases that indulge this need for same-sex behavior at the expense of a relationship. They are treated like s and told to stay in the shadows. It is because of how we treat these people that the STDs are so rampant.

    I personally could careless if someone wants to choose that lifestyle because its none of my business, but we as country shouldn't have to legally recognize a gay couple as anything more than just that ... a gay couple. Now many of them are wanting to adopt children and raise them in their gay lifestyle.
    Read my paragraph above and tell me there's no societal upside.

    Once gay marriage is completely forced upon the rest of the country by the federal government then society is going to move towards bestiality and attempt to argue that it is perfectly ok to be in love with a dog or a sheep and that no one should be denied love! MTV and other liberal media outlets will jump on that bandwagon as well and shove it down our throats until many of you will actually begin to think you're ignorant for not approving of it!
    [sarcasm]Yes, and we'll have pologamy and child marriages approved as well[/sarcasm]

    This slippery slope argument shows how ignorant your opinion is. A child and an animal cannot consent to a sexual relationship. There takes a degree of experience and judgement to do so. sexuals can. One is rape--either of a child or an animal--the other is consentual sex.

    On a personal note, this paragraph infuriated me and made me sick. How ridiculous to compare the two.


    sexuality is a sexual lifestyle choice and preference, not something that should be honored or legally recognized by the government.
    I'll take the word of a genetic scientist and the studies and history that came before that person than I will of your backwards, ignorant opinion any day.

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    gays are cool. do what you want just say away from me. kthxbye

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    sexuality is not the disturbing trend. uncontrolled lust is.

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    From Cali:

    By Maura Dolan and Carol Williams Los Angeles Times Staff Writers August 4, 2010|2:56 p.m.





    Reporting from San Francisco and Los Angeles —
    The federal judge who overturned Proposition 8 Wednesday said the ballot initiative that banned same-sex marriage was based on moral disapproval of gay marriage and ordered the state to stop enforcing the ban.

    U.S. District Chief Judge Vaughn R. Walker, in a 136-page ruling, said California "has no interest in differentiating between same-sex and opposite-sex unions"

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,7711145.story

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    I was born straight and I enjoy it. I have a straight gene because a scientist told me. How does the gay community feel about polygamy and bestiality? Do gays only care about themselves when it comes to marriage or do they believe that marriage should be for everyone? Personally, if gay people can be allowed to get married then polygamy should be legal. Also, if you want to marry an animal then why not? Gay people are always crying and preaching about equal rights but at the end of the day, they're only concerned and worried about their rights. In order for everyone to be equal when it comes to marriage, there really shouldn't be any rules or limitations for marriage. However, gay people are only care about their cause and movement.

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    I was born straight and I enjoy it.
    So quit whining about it.

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    I believe if gays want to be married, they should be. I'd be for polygamy if there were just one rule: There can never be a difference of more than one in the numbers of consenting people of each gender in the marriage. If you have one dude, no more than two women. If you have four women, no more than five dudes, and no less than three. Most polygamy that has ever been practiced in all history is just a power trip of men over women by one man dominating a whole group of women. That's not a marriage, it's slavery.

    Talking about marriages to animals or children is just stupid and the worst kind of strawman to cover your phobia, since neither can really consent.

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    However, gay people are only care about their cause and movement.
    So, that pretty much makes them like everyone else then, doesn't it?

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    In the word of the great Rodney King, can't we all just get along?

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