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  1. #51
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    huh? I said i agree with everything EVEN that ...
    Sorry I misread that big time.

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    the 80's was NOT overrated the 90's were ...
    I also think this past decade doesnt get it's due either ...
    We had a dynasty Laker team and a worthy rival franchise that was a potential dynasty and the most consistent teams of ANY decade in the spurs ...
    We had some one to 1.5 hit wonder champions: Heat, Celtics, and Pistons

    And look at the HOF'ers that had their prime that decade: shaq, tim, Kobe, KG, Ray allen, dirk, Paul pierce, A.I, Kidd Nash and
    We also had young stars that got their start in this past decade: Lebron, Melo, bosh roy, paul Dwill etc.

    i think the NBA is in it's best place since the 80's even though they have no definitive MJ torch bearer right now ...

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    Sorry I misread that big time.
    it's cool it was a great and fair post ...

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    Kblaze's Bad Boy mix is so much better


  5. #55
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    Kobe would survive and would be good enough to reach the Finals only to lose against MJ. IMHO, Kobe would be the Clyde Drexler of the 80s. If Mark Price was successful back in the 80s, Paul would hold his own.

    Wade on the other hand is a different case. I'm not sure how he'll be able to handle all the hand-checking back in the 80s. James would dominate and there's nobody during that time that would be able to handle him when he drives to the lane. His spotty outside shooting would kill him though.

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    MJ would have a few less rings if Kobe had played in the watered down 90's.
    The only team that had the chance to beat the Bulls during the 90s was Hakeem's Rockets. Kobe would be lucky to win one during that era. He's lucky he came into the league when MJ already on his way down. If he came earlier, well

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    MJ would have a few less rings if Kobe had played in the watered down 90's.


    Bulls-Lakers games would have been extremely awkward.

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    If you had taken Kobe's 3-peat Lakers and this current Laker team and put them in the 90's, MJ would be ringless.
    So you're saying that Kobe>MJ? Yes or No?

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    The 3-peat Lakers would have/could have given those Bulls some problems, especially with Shaq in the middle, but these current Lakers definitely couldn't..the 2010 Lakers were very weak for a championship team IMO..

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    The 3-peat Lakers would have/could have given those Bulls some problems, especially with Shaq in the middle, but these current Lakers definitely couldn't..the 2010 Lakers were very weak for a championship team IMO..
    Harlot Ho...If you really want more just scream it out louder...

    Bynum >>> Longley...Bynum would feast…thanksgiving style. He’s better offensively, rebounding-wise, skill-wise and defensively. No contest at all here. A healthly and prime Bynum would outscore Kuc by 18-20 points and feast on the boards.

    Gasol > Rodman.... No doubt that Dennis would have gotten in Gasol’s head for at least 2 games by making his hard when Gasol backed into the paint, and then asking Gasol if he felt all that meat. But ultimately Rodman would have been overmatched one-on-one by Gasol’s length and euro skillset. Gasol would have learned quickly to put Dennis on his hip. Also with Gasol range he would have kept Dennis out the paint and off the boards.

    Artest <= Pippen. Artest wins defensive match-up. Pippen wins offensive...If they both shut each other down defensively then it would hurt the Bulls more due to their reliance on Pip. But a prime Artest would cancel Pippen at a minimum which significantly hurts the bulls.

    Jordan = Kobe... Cancel out. Jordan never played defense against a guy that could outscore a team by himself or even a guy that was a more prolific scorer with more range than him and a comparable post game. For every turnaround J of Jordan's...Kobe busting his ass with back-2-back-2-back three's...

    Harper <Fisher. Fisher would have won this match-up due to his clutchness and hardcore physical play as a guard. Fisher can legitimately win a game for you in crunch time or even a quarter, similar to his performance against Boston in game 3, and Orlando last year in game 4. Harper simply could not carry a team to victory like Fisher has.

    Kukoc = Odom... Both play like euro's...Pretty much a wash…both around 6-10, left-handed, and can both handle and pass. Odom a better rebounder Kukoc a better shooter.
    Kerr <= Vujacic. Sasha would have harassed Kerr all over the court into turnover after turnover. Kerr more consistent shooter but couldn't play the harrasing defense that Sasha can.

    Lakers Phil = Bulls Phil…People confuse Phil’s bad knees and hips with desire to win. Sure he gives Kobe coaching duties at times and he may not jump up and down and harass the refs but he still has that calm fire. I think Phil senses that Kobe is just a brighter guy than Jordan at thinking the game and reading defenses so he’s given more leeway.
    and 2000 Lakers would have ted more prolifically all over MJ's bulls...

  11. #61
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    Wow you overrated some of the Lakers big time.

    I'm too lazy to show how foolish some of your ratings were there right now.

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    Finally, a Laker fan who has now admitted that Jordan is as good as Kobe. It's official, Kobe is as good as Jordan.

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    The first year of no handchecking was 2005, right?

    Take a look at Kobe's averages from 2001-2004.

    Especially the first 3 seasons, and keep in mind the difficulties he had in 04. He was fine with handchecking
    Hand checking was eliminated in 1994, but not really enforced until around early 2000's.

    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...ses/index.html

    Defense 3 seconds was implemented 2001, look at Kobe's average in 00 and then 01.

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    Hand checking was eliminated in 1994, but not really enforced until around early 2000's.

    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...ses/index.html

    Defense 3 seconds was implemented 2001, look at Kobe's average in 00 and then 01.
    The defensive three second violation is a joke of a rule.

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    Artest is better than Pippen on the defensive end?

    ahahahahaha LMAO CROFL LOL.

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    Kobe would survive and would be good enough to reach the Finals only to lose against MJ. IMHO, Kobe would be the Clyde Drexler of the 80s. If Mark Price was successful back in the 80s, Paul would hold his own.

    Wade on the other hand is a different case. I'm not sure how he'll be able to handle all the hand-checking back in the 80s. James would dominate and there's nobody during that time that would be able to handle him when he drives to the lane. His spotty outside shooting would kill him though.
    Good post, but Price was much tougher than Paul

    Paul is such a big whiny diva

    Remember when Bowen got suspended for not even touching him?

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    Good post, but Price was much tougher than Paul

    Paul is such a big whiny diva

    Remember when Bowen got suspended for not even touching him?
    Really? So they were on the ground fighting for a loose ball and Bowen didn't even touch Paul? How does that work?

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    Wow you overrated some of the Lakers big time.

    I'm too lazy to show how foolish some of your ratings were there right now.
    Right.....


    PIPPEN would DOMINATE RON RON

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    Handchecking may have been eliminated in the rulebook, but not on the court. Every superstar swingman gets the handchecked out of him to this day.

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    lol

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    Bynum > Longley... longley wasn't good, but bynum isn't either. has he never feasted on anyone
    Gasol = Rodman.... gasol is more polished, but rodman's defense and rebounding would have canceled alot of pau's offensive game out, which is all he really has

    Artest <<<<< Pippen. pippen would have exploited artest like no one else could

    Jordan >>>>> Kobe... KOBE IS NOT MJ!!!

    Harper >Fisher. better all around

    Kukoc>>> Odom... No question here, kukoc could score w/ the best of them
    Kerr>Vujacic. Better player, better shooter, more clutch

    Lakers Phil <<< Bulls Phil… He was better when he wasn't so full of himself
    Fixed

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    Good post, but Price was much tougher than Paul

    Paul is such a big whiny diva

    Remember when Bowen got suspended for not even touching him?
    I hope that is a joke

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    I hope that is a joke
    Actually Paul is the one who punched Bowen

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    Actually Paul is the one who punched Bowen
    Yeah, with a devastating wrist punch.

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    Yeah, with a devastating wrist punch.

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