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stop being lazy, zak
Maybe God made you bipolar so that you would be reminded that you're flawed like everyone else and that you occasionally need help from Him or other people?
If what you're saying is true, then no one should need meds, because everyone is how God made them. But we know that isn't the case.
stop being lazy, zak
All meds have side effects, even marijuana (somewhat incapacitating, although habitual stoners learn how to function).
BigPharma makes and markets aggressively a lot of nasty, expensive that often does more harm than good (ask The Coyote), esp the anti-psychotic they are now pushing even to kids and babies, only reduces symptoms, doesn't cure, so you limp along leaning on impoverishing, demeaning, esteem-destroying chemical crutches forever (enriching your docs and BigPharma, which is the name of their game), and at best does nothing.
IIRC from GTG pics, B-I-G-Zak is morbidly obese (some example to your kids, huh?), which means, without exception, that the biochemistry and metabolism are screwed up. And wasn't it BZ who lost an appendage to diabetic gangrene? Next up is kidney damage, ED, CVD, if not already present.
I wouldn't be surprised that his mental health problems would become less intrusive and even disappear if he fixed his physical health problems .
Lose 100 pounds, quit eating crap (most MX food is as unhealthy as any fast/junk food), quit eating processed foods (almost the entire grocery store, and ALL of the convenience store), abandon the pathogenic Standard American Diet.
There are many healthy approaches and programs. My daughter, who doesn't need it, has started the CrossFit program of nutritional reform (essentially caveman/paleo nutrition) and strenuous exercise. Google shows 7 crossfit locations in SA.
BZ probably needs the structure and commitment of group plan and scheduled program, sort of like a Fatties Anonymous, and full support of his wife (who can be a huge impediment if she's also physically unhealthy).
One of major weaknesses of Christianity is that it's concentrated "all in the head", with absolutely no attention to, even disregard for, physical health of The Temple of the Holy Ghost, never mentioning the nervous system which is the basis of humanity. Typical Western/industrial schizophrenia. So there's no guidance from that direction. If you think you're gonna pray and Bible-thump your way to health, you're wasting your time.
Just wait a few days when you start feeling crappy because you didn't get off the medication slowly.
Croutons! Tossin knowledge around. I agree with everything you said 100%. unfortunately, though, unhealthy people don't want to hear any of it
So is the BigZak Flashdance video still on?
Chalupa is the one that lost his big toe to diabetic gangrene, not Zak.
Probably. He's not taking meds, so that will probably make sense to him.
You're an idiot, zak. You've proven repeatedly that you can't do this. I'd also classify you as insane at this point, the definition of insanity being taking the same action over and over, but expecting different results.
Take the meds. Feeling like crap on them may be God's price for keeping your family. You sure aren't doing that off the meds. You will melt down again. I guarantee it. Your wife will also hit a point where she's done with you.
Einstein said that definition and it is just flat wrong. Einstein was no more a psychologist than he was a economist. A psychotic episode does not mean repe ive actions necessarily. OCD maybe.
Zach you are going to go through this cycle of trying therapy and giving up on it over and over again and you are going to have the same issues over and over again until you finally accept that you have an issue and need to do something.
If in your manic episodes you are thinking that you are some demigod then that sounds like a psychotic delusion to me. You may be all happy happy joy joy right now but your mania will get worse. You will find yourself becoming disoriented from sleep deprivation and general frenetic activity and you will become mean. If you have a mixed episode and have a true psychotic break then god help your family.
Thats what it really boils down to. If you are going to refuse to even attempt the therapy that your doctors prescribe you then you are worse than a selfish prick.
It takes weeks for the drug levels in your plasma to get to the point where it is effective and it takes a months to really see how you respond to them.
Depakoate, lithium, tegatrol etc are not for everyone but taking them for a a month, thinking you have it all figured out and stopping is stupid. You are not even giving them a legitimate chance. At the very least you need to talk to your doctor about rating(weening) yourself off of them because this cold turkey with psychoactive medication and your mental health condition is irresponsible at best.
You thought you were some prodigal son. That is a borderline psychotic delusion. Its obvious that you are having severe manic episodes and that these episodes are getting worse. That trend is not going to stop.
You yourself admit that you think that you are things you are not during these episodes. You admit that you have no control over them. Can you see how that can be dangerous?
Flashdance Video! Flashdance Video!
being crazy is fun. haters gonna hate.
i had a friend (disappeared off the face of the planet...no surprise there) who was a really smart guy - near perfect SAT scores, etc. he was manic schizophrenic, so the government actually gave him disability checks to sit in his apartment and play video games all day.
makes me start to wonder about the possibilities....
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any help on social phobia?
I'm not talking about physical actions, I'm talking about him repeatedly deciding that he can just handle this situation. Based on postings here, he's had at least two major meltdowns, and yet he still thinks he can just suck it up and manage this by force of will. That's insanity. He knows where this road leads, and yet he's still setting off on this hopeless journey.
I understand what it is like being on meds. Mine make me feel like I am walking around in a dream. Simple problem solving becomes a pretty big issue at times. I do not like feeling helpless, and sometimes the meds make me feel that way, and I get pretty angry.
I solved my issue by keeping a logbook or mini-journal with me and finding out when I felt the most discomfort at the medications peak effect from the time when I took my medication. I then adjusted the time I take it so I am in bed asleep before the wierd surreal feelings start popping up. I have found it to be working rather well. I feel more like myself rather than Forrest Gump.
Check out that other thread on the front page of the club, http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162147. That could be you one day, bigzax! Get help, help yourself.
everyone's bipolar these days... $ speaks louder to psychs than anything else and they're willing to write the prescriptions that bring in the dough. they're willing to write those prescriptions without seriously understanding your problems or giving a damn one way or the other.
i suggest taking some ongos and figuring out in your head what is going on with you and working it out in those 6-8 hrs.
btw, thispego is a complete head in this thread when he def shouldn't be. talk is cheap mother er and you're trying too hard to talk big.
what the are you talking about you lttle got? I'm trying to be helpful, only a naive little like you would see it differently.
talk is cheap, calf tats are pricey.
Nothing outside the range of a male secretary bringing in the big money(or t-shirts), imho.
Zak, medicate and pray for God to help you feel comfortable in your skin. Prayer is a very good thing!
The fact you've asked for The Club for advice in this matter should be all the evidence you need that medication is your best option.
I think Zack has a few friends in the Club, that can understand what he's going through. He's smart enough to filter out the trolls & fakers.
What the are you talking about?
This is rambling nonsense. Have a little education in Psychology before blathering randomly about a subject. Bipolar disorder is a very serious medical condition that more often than not requires treatment, and research has indicated that modern medication can be extremely effective in allowing an individual to regain control of their life where they had none.
You don't know anything about bigzak's psychiatrist, but that doesn't seem to stop you from making assumptions.
Even though I said something contrary earlier in the thread, I think your condition may be more biological than mine was Zak. I would suggest following the professionals advice (your doctor/therapist). If they prescribe meds it is probably because they give you the best chance to beat the condition as quickly as possible. Meds give you a crutch so the receptors that are overly active in your brain can calm down. That means you can then work on yourself via affirmations, etc. in a state of peace. Then, gradually as the inner work you are doing becomes reality, your meds will become less and less necessary until you can walk on your own, so to speak.
At least that's how the regimens were described to me, right before the insurance told me to go it alone...gotta love insurance.
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