Health Insurers Skirt New Coverage Requirement For Kids

[Yonivore]

Your right, my sentence sucked. Medicare is absolutely more efficient in many ways than private insurance. It's medical prices are cheaper, its far more accepted than any private insurance

cheaper prices for the same medical care? What doesn't add up, Manny? Doctors say they're no longer getting fairly compensated for their services under Medicare.

That's why it's dropped from 92% to 87% in 2 years.

Cheating the providers isn't efficient.

You're welcome to prove it.

You're saying there are doctor's that accept Medicare but not any other private insurance?

Oh, small town doctors that are rejecting patients? Sounds like a rampant problem. What do you want to do about people in those towns who have insurance but no in network providers?

This is almost as lame as your mosque reasons and is one of a reach.

I'll openly acknowledge Medicare is not a perfect system. That was never my contention. This problem is one that affects private insurers just as much if not more so I don't see how it makes Medicare look worse in comparison.

It is a problem for those who experience it.

You'd be wrong. Doctors who don't have to take private insurance don't take private insurance. I'm not sure of the exact figures but I work for a doctor and the number of insurance companies we accept is extremely limited (we do however accept Medicare which pays better than many of the private insurance companies.)

However, once again you're welcome to prove your assertion. I'm not going to hold my breath.

Does the doctor for whom you work have to take the extremely limited number of private providers you claim?

[MannyIsGod]

cheaper prices for the same medical care? What doesn't add up, Manny? Doctors say they're no longer getting fairly compensated for their services under Medicare.

That's why it's dropped from 92% to 87% in 2 years.

Cheating the providers isn't efficient.

Proving a price for a service that 87% of providers accept isn't efficent?



Thats pretty ing laughable.

Also, there are private insurers that pay less than Medicaid and get away with it.

You're saying there are doctor's that accept Medicare but not any other private insurance?

No. I'm saying that doctors pick Medicare over other forms of insurance, however. I'm not sure if the scenario you painted above exists but it certainly does not need to exist for my point to be true.

It is a problem for those who experience it.

Yes. Its a problem when private insurer holders run into the same problem. In other words, its far from a Medicare specific problem so how does it make Medicare worse than private insurers?

Does the doctor for whom you work have to take the extremely limited number of private providers you claim?

No. He can take as many as he wants. He also doesn't have to take Medicare. So what exactly is the point?

[ElNono]

As it gets worse the doctors continue peel away from Medicaid and Medicare.

Here's a story.

Baby Boomer Bust: Doctors Refusing Medicare Patients

So the overwhelming majority of doctors accept medicare willingly... Maybe they don't see the problem that you guys do...

[MannyIsGod]

Man, it takes some serious myopia to call 87% inefficient. Call it socialist, call it whatever you want, but that is efficiency.

[ElNono]

So 87% of doctors 'eat the difference' willingly... that a lot of masochist doctors...

[boutons_deux]

"Doctors say they're no longer getting fairly compensated for their services under Medicare."

Doctors are greedy, gouging, overpaid, a major reason US per capita medical costs are twice other industrial countries. Health care is just another way US citizens are getting screwed and gamed.

[boutons_deux]

"Thousands of pages and billions of dollars and they ed it up"

No country gets national health care right the first try, and they didn't have $1T of vested interests/for-profit corps buying exceptions and regulations to protect their profits.

Medicare and Medicaid, 40 years old, are continually revised and improved, just like for-gouging health insurers tweak their operations, procedures, policies every year to over their clients better.

But Yoni and other VRWC shills expect the US health care reform to be perfect first try.

GFY, Yoni and friends.