At least I can read. Ask your mommy to setup the VCR for you and count how many points Amare gets when Robinson is guarding him. You should still have plenty of time to masturbate to your lifesize poster of Amare and get your hairnets washed in time for work.
Amare is a great player with Nash spoonfeeding him but without someone setting him up, he's just an above average post player. What were his averages with Nash out?
Run along now.
Without Nash in 2004-2005: 22.4ppg, 7.4rpg--Oops.
Without Nash in 2003-2004: 20ppg, 9rpg, Not bad for a 20 year old who played only one year of organized high school basketball.
And he molested a team headed up by Lebron and Carmelo in the Rookie/Sop re game that year too--without Nash. Hmm...
Last edited by Catharsis; 05-22-2005 at 11:51 AM.
Personally, I would love Duncan to guard him because Duncan has always been able to answer the call on any assignment. Remember when people said he couldn't guard Dirk? Remember when the Spurs & Mavs last played eachother and Duncan had to guard Dirk in the game? It resulted in a Duncan block & steal.
Plus, I'm pretty bored with people saying "Duncan can't guard Amare". I would absolutely love to see Duncan quiet those fans.
But, I think Nazr should get the assignment. I have a strong feeling that not only will Nazr do a much better job against the pick & roll but also do a much better job guarding him one-on-one than Rasho.
If things get ugly late in the game, they should just have Duncan guard him.
But the difference between Dirk and Amare is Dirk is more of a perimeter shooter. Amare is a true post up forward. Duncan will committ fouls if guarding him.
And that's what will probably happen.If things get ugly late in the game, they should just have Duncan guard him.
Amere's gonna get most of his looks off the pick and roll and off the the left wing extended; he's gonna try and face his defender and take him off the dribble. If Tim guards him he's gonna need help (not a double team) when he tries to put it on the floor, to stay out of foul trouble. Tim needs to space him and not crowd him and block him out when the ball goes up.
On the pick and roll, a third defender is going to need to help on Nash so Tim can stay with Amare.
I bet if Amare is being guarded by Duncan, he'll try to draw him out by shooting some jumpshots. If he's hitting that, then Pops will need to go with Nazr since Duncan cannot keep up with Amare if he sucks him out of the key and drives--his ankles won't let him.
The 4 games stretch where Nash was out i get 16.5 ppg, not 22.4. I didn't check if Nash was out more than that so you may be right but the fact is when Nash is out, he plays well below his average of 26 ppg as I'm sure any Suns fan can tell you. He just doesn't have polished post moves outside of trying to blow by his defender and dunk. He will be a great player no doubt but so far he's taking the path David Robinson did in milking his athleticism without improving his post skills.
Please tell me you're not holding up the rookie/sohpmore game as any kind of evidence of play during a real game. That contest disintegrated into a no-defense streetball game/dunk contest and was taken so lightly by the players that there were several analysts calling it a disgrace.
I agree with your logic. I figure if Nazr is guarding him, Spurs will have to treat him like Shaq and double, just to get the ball out of his hands and try to match up again. I think it would be a good strategy to create havoc in the half-court and try to get the Suns to rush their shots, as opposed to letting them play under control.
Nash missed 7 games this season. Did you see the game where Nash missed? The first two were at the end of a eastern conf. road trip. The bad game Amare had was against Detroit where he was guarded by Ben Wallace. Not having Nash really hurt his game there since he was facing one of the best post up defenders in the league. The next game was against Memphis where Amare got into early foul trouble. The rest of the games Amare dominated the paint.
I'm sorry, but for anyone to say Amare Stoudemire is a below average post player without Nash hasn't watch him play. He averages more shot attempts with Nash in the game--mainly because the Suns run and gun with Nash. Without him they tend to slow down--less shot attempts. At 22.4 ppg (without Nash) he ranks 14th in the league in scoring behind Shaq (22.9). I guess Shaq isn't that good of a post up player either.
You're the one swooning over DRob and you're talking to ME about beating off to lifesize posters?
Take your lifesize David Robinson penis replica dildo out of your silver dollar-sized asshole, ya ing fairy, and quit getting your panties wet about a washed up grampa who retired 3 in' years ago.
Just ask Dirk Novflopface.ok...that was funny!
You make good points, Catharsis, welcome to the board and look forward to more good stuff.
Thanks, and I can already tell Spurs fans have their heads screwed on better than their Dallas counterparts.
You make good points, Catharsis, welcome to the board and look forward to more good stuff.
not working!
First of all, I said he was an above average post player without Nash, not below average. I still stand by my point that he's not an accomplished "post player" because he doesn't really have any post moves. He doesn't play with his back to the basket at all. He gets his points on pick and rolls from Nash or tries to beat his man to the basket while facing him and dunk. As I said, he still largely uses his athleticism to score points, not footwork or basketball fundamentals. His play on offense actually reminds me more of Robinson in his prime than any other player in the league right now.
Stick a fork in yourself buddy, you're done.
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