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Get back to sucking Rons got, and dont come up for air till ur done
The Viets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get back to sucking Rons got, and dont come up for air till ur done
agent orange ftw
That was definitely one of lefty's worst.
well nash made barbosa, diaw, marion, tim thomas, and some others into fricken all-star status (or near it). that counts for something.
lol Nash making Marion an all star caliber player
Tbh members of the Asian race such as yourself are only allowed to refer to it as "my penis" or "my peepee". Calling it a shaft evokes an image of a respectable size, which you koreans obviously lack.
crofl dirk<nash.
lol me being a member of the pickle breath clan
lets not act like dirk has had substantially more team success than nash. he got to the finals once, the rest is pretty much even.
dirk's primary strength, shooting, is an area where nash is no slouch at.
while dirk is a great rebounder for a SG, he's mediocre for a PF. meanwhile, nash is a really great assist man, no matter what position.
people knock nash's D, but when has he played with a good defensive big? meanwhile, dirk has played several seasons with "garbage men" at the 5 to hide his lack of strength/bulk. some posters are saying nash's success is due to the system and that dirk's finals appearance makes him better, but maybe nash's lack of a finals appearance is because the suns system lacked defense? maybe dirk's finals appearance is because AJ's system put dirk in a defensive minded system where he could hide dirk's defensive shortcomings?
bottom line, I value dirk taking his team to the final (even though i think they were extremely lucky to get past SA) over nash's two MVP's, so i think he had the better career. but I think nash is the better player, because he plays his position better than dirk plays his.
Nash quit.
Dirk hasn't.
Then obviously Dirk is much more than just a "seven foot shooter" because he's considerably better than Bargnani. And Bargnani is no slouch himself, he's developed into a pretty solid player.
When has he quit? Nash is a ing warrior.
The 2009 season.
That's one reason why I say Dirk >>> Nash, the low point of Nash's career is 100x worse than the low point of Dirk's career. Dirk never quit 20 games into a season because he wasn't having enough fun, got his coach fired, tanked his team into the lottery, then demanded a raise afterwards.
See the asshole above.
crucify em, cubby. send that chuckbox no-show to the tree of woe!
Mono, gettin' his O & Forever on.
seems like nitpicking tbh, but ill take your word for it
But he did provide The Skunker
cubby, gettin his suckage of on
Not nitpicking at all. Regardless of the rest of his career, Kobe's stunt in 2006 will always be a stain on his resume, same goes for Nash in 2009.
^Yet another member of The O & Forever Crew.
"Substantially" more success? Maybe not. But still more. When you compare players, you find those differences, whether it's by a large margin or a very small one. Dirk and Nash are comparable players. The one Finals appearance Dirk has is a distinction that does separate him. And it's extremely important to point out that on that 2005-06 Mavs team, the next best players were Josh Howard and Jason Terry. Not bad role players, but certainly not star players or legitimate (perennial) all star caliber players. That's a big reason why Dirk gets a lot of credit for taking the Mavs that far.
Nash had better all around talent on those Suns teams that fit the Suns system. Dirk had smokey and turtlehead. And while their defense held them back, the Suns were held back just as much by the fact that getting deeper into the playoffs they weren't able to force their style of play on better defensive teams. It wasn't just a fault of their lack of defense. They couldn't get into an offensive pace for 110-115 points every game and win. That's as much a blame on their ability to force their offensive style. And that also goes to Nash's abilities on offense and his ability to command the offense and style of offense against better defenses in the playoffs.
Dirk is actually a solid rebounder for a PF. He's not an elite rebounder like Duncan or Garnett. But, especially as a defensive rebounder, it's a flat out lie to say he's mediocre. He doesn't get as many offensive rebounds as many PFs because he does play out on the perimeter on offense. But check his defensive rebounding stats, and you'll see there's no way he should be considered a "mediocre" rebounder. Career-wise, he's a better defensive rebounder than guys like Pau Gasol and Chris Bosh and in the same neighborhood as Carlos Boozer. It's the fact that he plays out on the perimeter on offense that his overall rebounding isn't much better. But to say he's a mediocre rebounder sounds silly to me.
Correct.
Dirk has always been a superb defensive rebounder, often near the top of the league at defensive rebound rate. If you watch him, his timing is what makes him so effective, even though hes not as athletic as others. He times his jump very well and gets good position. Seen him snag defensive boards away from guys like Garnett and Howard quite a few times because his timing and positioning is so good. He doesn't get a lot of offensive rebounds because as you said, he often is out on the perimeter, but is very capable of going inside and snagging offensive boards as well, and tends to do that much more when the playoffs roll around. He always averages around 11-12 RPG come playoff time.
Perhaps the only PF that really sticks out as being superior to Dirk in his rebounding fundamentals is Tim Duncan. Maybe Garnett as well.
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Dirk & Co. left ya hangin', wonderin' where they went::::::::Cully left DOK hangin', wonderin where he went.
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