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  1. #51
    Complete player hitmanyr2k's Avatar
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    I only disagree with Dirk being so high, he's too one-dimensional to still be considered a top 10 elite player.
    Why does Kevin Durant get a pass? He's one dimensional as and no one is arguing about him being Top 5.

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    Luke Walton has a back (pinch nerve) injury. He's just milking all the money and fame he gets from being a Laker.
    Nobody twisted the Lakers arm to give Walton that albatross of a contract. They've nobody to blame but themselves.

    On the positive side of the situation: we should consider ourselves extremely fortunate that Walton has never cost anything but money. He's been a walking disaster since day one.

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    Nobody twisted the Lakers arm to give Walton that albatross of a contract. They've nobody to blame but themselves.

    On the positive side of the situation: we should consider ourselves extremely fortunate that Walton has never cost anything but money. He's been a walking disaster since day one.
    Played a few alright games in his time

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    Nobody twisted the Lakers arm to give Walton that albatross of a contract. They've nobody to blame but themselves.

    On the positive side of the situation: we should consider ourselves extremely fortunate that Walton has never cost anything but money. He's been a walking disaster since day one.

    That's a little extreme. He's done a solid job when healthy the problem is that's very rare now. I hate to say it but i hope he just retires. He would probably make a good coach..

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    I've always disliked Wade due to his arrogance but now that LBJ is there, I've forgotten about Wade. LeCrab's on a different level
    You think Wade is arrogant? I think he's pretty reserved compared to most superstars that have the abilities he has..he actually seems to be a relatively humble guy.

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    Why does Kevin Durant get a pass? He's one dimensional as and no one is arguing about him being Top 5.
    Because he's elite of the elite at that one dimension. Nowitzki falls just short of that and as such, has no business being in the top ten over a player like Duncan, who, even at this stage in his career, is still a much better all around player. I've yet to hear a logical argument for how Nowitzki is better than Duncan.

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    That's a little extreme. He's done a solid job when healthy the problem is that's very rare now. I hate to say it but i hope he just retires. He would probably make a good coach..
    We'd still be on the hook for the cap money whether he disavowed the cash, or, not.

    When active he just scares me to death.

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    Because he's elite of the elite at that one dimension. Nowitzki falls just short of that and as such, has no business being in the top ten over a player like Duncan, who, even at this stage in his career, is still a much better all around player. I've yet to hear a logical argument for how Nowitzki is better than Duncan.
    you think a clearly biases spurfan like yourself is objectively gonna look at a Dirk > Duncan argument without spewing out the same bull of Dirk playing no d like it's 2003? Get a grip.

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    you think a clearly biases spurfan like yourself is objectively gonna look at a Dirk > Duncan argument without spewing out the same bull of Dirk playing no d like it's 2003? Get a grip.
    Nowitzki is an average team defender and a sub par man defender. Don't act like he has an impact or a presence defensively.

    Tell me, other than range shooting, what is Nowitzki superior to Duncan in?

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    How many Maverick games do you watch a year? And be honest, don't bump it up just so you don't wanna look like a dumb .

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    How many Maverick games do you watch a year? And be honest, don't bump it up just so you don't wanna look like a dumb .
    You answer my questions first.

    So you're saying Nowitzki is an impact defender and is well above average defensively? And you're calling me the "dumb "?

    Nowitzki is a joke. He's a 7-footer with virtually none of the responsibilities of a 7-footer. On top of that, he choked away a championship. I don't give a how many meaningless regular season points he piles up or how many regular season game winners he hits over undersized defenders.

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    Nowitzki is a joke.
    one of the top 50 players ever, a joke sorry, but there's no need to further this conversation with you after that brilliant basketball take by yourself.

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    one of the top 50 players ever, a joke sorry, but there's no need to further this conversation with you after that brilliant basketball take by yourself.
    Nice cop out.

    I didn't say he wasn't talented or a future Hall-of-Famer, but that doesn't mean he's not a joke. I don't have nearly as much respect for him as a player as his stats should suggest one should.

    James is the best player in the game today and I consider him a joke. There's no (for me, anyway) correlation between raw talent and whether I consider a player a joke.

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    Nice cop out.

    I didn't say he wasn't talented or a future Hall-of-Famer, but that doesn't mean he's not a joke. I don't have nearly as much respect for him as a player as his stats should suggest one should.

    James is the best player in the game today and I consider him a joke. There's no (for me, anyway) correlation between raw talent and whether I consider a player a joke.
    where do you see a cop out? you posted something really re ed and I let you know. I don't go up to mentally re ed people and start conversations just like I'd rather not listen to you spew off re ed takes.

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    where do you see a cop out? you posted something really re ed and I let you know. I don't go up to mentally re ed people and start conversations just like I'd rather not listen to you spew off re ed takes.
    You took a random comment and ran with it, while evading the questions. Typical cop out.

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    Believe.

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    plus Duncan blows ass at defense nowadays as you can see by looking at my sig

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    plus Duncan blows ass at defense nowadays as you can see by looking at my sig
    one play doesn't epitomise someones current form unless your michael ruffin and you like chucking the ball up in the air to waste time

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    please love my Dirk..

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    How many Maverick games do you watch a year? And be honest, don't bump it up just so you don't wanna look like a dumb .
    This is a copout. You criticized TD21's argument, then completely avoided participating in any actual discussion of the topic you claimed he was wrong about. You debate like a .

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    crofl gray spurfans united.

    Do you all think timvp noticed your gray army posts yet?

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    please love my Dirk..
    right as if LeBron's shaft scratching the inside of your throat isn't a shtick.

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    crofl gray spurfans united.

    Do you all think timvp noticed your gray army posts yet?
    You are such a useless poster. Do you brag to your friends about how you "piss off lame spurs fans online"? Saying "crofl" makes you look confident.

    I can't believe he's just laughing! I tried my hardest to put him down, and he's just laughing at me!!!

    dumbass

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    it doesn't? You can make the hall of fame and still be considered a joke?
    yeah, case in point ---> David Robinson. Guy had a way worse resume as a #1 option than Dirk, shot just as many jumpshots too, despite being able to bench press a bus. A complete in joke until Duncan came and lifted his ass out of the ashes where Ewing and Barkley were hanging out.

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    You are such a useless poster. Do you brag to your friends about how you "piss off lame spurs fans online"? Saying "crofl" makes you look confident.

    I can't believe he's just laughing! I tried my hardest to put him down, and he's just laughing at me!!!

    dumbass
    crofl

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