How many T's will the Spurs rack up this season?

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Well since I'm welcome to disagree with your oh-so-innocent "I really didn't mean to start trouble" take, I will. I don't recall anyone ever getting a technical for making a small hand gesture of protest (not even directed AT the officials) as Martin did. But hey, apparently I just haven't been watching the right games. (ya right).

So I went and looked up some additional info on this.

http://www.daily-news-trends.com/tag...al-foul-rules/



I have a hard time seeing how a simple "ah,phooey" hand gesture (not even done AT the official mind you) equates with an "aggressive gesture".

Conversely, Lamar Odom's little demonstration fits perfectly among the criteria of several of the bullet points, yet goes uncalled.

Btw, you never answered me before, do you think your smarter than Hubie Brown, yes or no?

First of all, I'm quite a bit smarter Hubie Brown, which is completely irrelevant to anything. Since you seem to think it's important I answer, now you have it. Usually once a game, Hubie comments on how something is a bad call, then the replay shows that it wasn't and Hubie doesn't back away from his position. Being able to admit you made a mistake has nothing to do with your IQ, so even if I weren't smarter than Hubie Brown I wouldn't be using his opinions as a basis for my argument.

Second, the hand gesture thing became a point of emphasis years ago. What you just quoted is from a few months ago. If you go back and read, I've already mentioned the timeline at least once. It's getting tedious having to explain the same thing over and over to people that don't seem to want to understand.

Third, this conversation is completely moot, because this new emphasis on technicals is just as doomed as the previous one was. Last time the officials stuck with it for a few games, but this time the officials don't seem to have the balls to blow the whistle. Given subsequent games, your Lamar Odom example is now completely valid.

Al Jefferson did the "incredulous hand raise" last night accompanied by the biggest cry-baby face I've ever seen and didn't get teed up. In fact, with all the whining that went on between the Jazz and the Suns, the only tech they managed to blow for the entire game was against Robin Lopez. He deserved it, but at least three other guys did worse, and Jefferson did the "slapping himself on the arm" thing too, if memory serves. I'm now fully aboard the "inconsistent" train with you guys.

It's only a matter of time before a crew whistles JJ Red for arguing and then lets Dwayne Wade get away with the exact same thing two possessions later.

By the way, did anyone else notice the NBA broadcasts quickly cutting away from the court after a whistle so the reactions of the players are hard to see? I know they've been doing it on ESPN and TNT. Sounds like a directive from the league to me. What do you think?

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First of all, I'm quite a bit smarter Hubie Brown, which is completely irrelevant to anything. Since you seem to think it's important I answer, now you have it.
Fine, your en led to your opinion. Wouldn't say I necessarily agree with you.

Usually once a game, Hubie comments on how something is a bad call, then the replay shows that it wasn't and Hubie doesn't back away from his position.
And for every one he gets wrong he correctly points out 3 missed calls by the officials.

Being able to admit you made a mistake has nothing to do with your IQ, so even if I weren't smarter than Hubie Brown I wouldn't be using his opinions as a basis for my argument.
Second, the hand gesture thing became a point of emphasis years ago. What you just quoted is from a few months ago. If you go back and read, I've already mentioned the timeline at least once. It's getting tedious having to explain the same thing over and over to people that don't seem to want to understand. Can you provide a link at least, to back up what you're claiming? Not that I don't believe you, but its nice to have something more than "your word".

Third, this conversation is completely moot, because this new emphasis on technicals is just as doomed as the previous one was. Last time the officials stuck with it for a few games, but this time the officials don't seem to have the balls to blow the whistle. Given subsequent games, your Lamar Odom example is now completely valid.Of course it is. I already knew it was.

Al Jefferson did the "incredulous hand raise" last night accompanied by the biggest cry-baby face I've ever seen and didn't get teed up. In fact, with all the whining that went on between the Jazz and the Suns, the only tech they managed to blow for the entire game was against Robin Lopez. He deserved it, but at least three other guys did worse, and Jefferson did the "slapping himself on the arm" thing too, if memory serves. I'm now fully aboard the "inconsistent" train with you guys. I'm going to be watching that game this afternoon, I will make sure to pay close attention to Jefferson's conduct

It's only a matter of time before a crew whistles JJ Red for arguing and then lets Dwayne Wade get away with the exact same thing two possessions later.Wouldn't be shocking. I'm watching the heat vs magic right now and the officials are without a doubt in miami's pocket

By the way, did anyone else notice the NBA broadcasts quickly cutting away from the court after a whistle so the reactions of the players are hard to see? I know they've been doing it on ESPN and TNT. Sounds like a directive from the league to me. What do you think? Haven't noticed this, but usually they show a replay on a tech /shrug

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Hubie doesn't point out missed calls. He gets more wrong than the officials do, and he has the benefit of an army of technical guys feeding replay video to him and whispering in his ear. If he were such a brilliant basketball mind, he'd be coaching, not doing the same job as Reggie Miller.

The information about the hand gesture has come from broadcasts over the past several years. I can't link to that. If you've watched as much basketball as you claim then you should have heard it. I didn't make it up.

The Lamar Odom example wasn't a valid example in and of itself. It's really easy to make a guess based on it, but that's all it is without subsequent actions to back it up.

I've yet to see the officials in anyone's "pocket". The Magic missed like fifty shots, so they didn't really need officiating to lose games for them.

I have yet to see much of an angle on a replay of a tech, but the only ones I've seen for demonstrations so far are Martin and Lopez. They cut away from both quickly, didn't show a replay for Lopez, and even cut away from the delay technical on Deron Williams. They showed it once they figured out it was a delay. Really not enough information to know for sure, but I'll be keeping my eye on it.