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    I hope Obama names a Trip to India Czar.

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    Its ok. Obama plans to go on the Indian Version of WWTBAM chai wallah style and make some of the money back.

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    LOL at the wingnuts spinning this like Obama is taking 3000 friends and family to India for 10 days

    ...it's an economic summit, he is taking business leaders to try and spur US-Indian business which could generate billions in taxes annually...

    .....but the GOP wants us to fail....

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    The Pentagon did not mince words in dismissing as “absolutely absurd” and “comical” media reports from Indian news outlets that the US Navy was sending 34 warships off the coast of Mumbai as part of the security preparations for President Obama’s upcoming trip to India.

    Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell did not shy away from dismissing reports that appeared in Indian media outlets, such as the Press Trust of India and the television network NDTV. The Press Trust of India is that country’s largest news agency.

    Morrell told reporters he was making an exception to the practice of not discussing Presidential security details to shoot down the reports.

    “I will take the liberty this time of dismissing as absolutely absurd this notion that somehow we were deploying 10 percent of the Navy -- some 34 ships and an aircraft carrier -- in support of the president's trip to Asia,” said Morrell at today’s Pentagon briefing. “That's just comical. Nothing close to that is being done."

    He acknowledged that a Presidential trip requiring security needs “should not come as a surprise to anyone” and that the Defense Department “does play a role in support of Presidential missions.” He said it was customary to not discuss such security requests, but “I made an exception in batting down this absurd notion of there being 34 ships, or more than 10 percent of the Navy, deployed in support of this trip. That is most certainly not the case.”
    Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/11/pentago...

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    LOL at the wingnuts spinning this like Obama is taking 3000 friends and family to India for 10 days

    ...it's an economic summit, he is taking business leaders to try and spur US-Indian business which could generate billions in taxes annually...

    .....but the GOP wants us to fail....
    The 3000 number includes business men. Probably to outsource more jobs to India.

    I was skeptical of the $3 billion figure, but the tunnel and support? Then on top of that, they don't deny any of this except to say it doesn't cost $3 billion, but they won't say how much either. What is it? $2,999 million?

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    This is disturbing. This cat just doesn't give a .

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    This is disturbing. This cat just doesn't give a .
    I know. It's a real transparent administration. As transparent as obsidian glass.

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    So, how much was actually spent? Anybody got the receipts?
    I mean, they've been seemingly condemned already, so I gather the evidence is out there for everyone to see, right?

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    So, how much was actually spent? Anybody got the receipts?
    I mean, they've been seemingly condemned already, so I gather the evidence is out there for everyone to see, right?
    I'm sure someone will compile a number at some point.

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    I'm sure someone will compile a number at some point.
    But you already have your mind set, so the actual numbers are truly irrelevant, right?

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    But you already have your mind set, so the actual numbers are truly irrelevant, right?
    My mindset isn't in stone on this. I gave an approximate $200 million for the total trip as being excessive. It all depends on the details involved.

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    Yes, the White House has historically given detailed accounts of cost regarding security for every single presidential trip. It makes perfect sense.

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    My mindset isn't in stone on this. I gave an approximate $200 million for the total trip as being excessive. It all depends on the details involved.
    You don't have a chart comparing to previous trips since the '60s?

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    You don't have a chart comparing to previous trips since the '60s?
    No. Do you? And under what cir stances?

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    lol, I certainly don't.

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    I gave an approximate $200 million for the total trip
    How did you approximate this?

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    So, how much was actually spent? Anybody got the receipts?
    I mean, they've been seemingly condemned already, so I gather the evidence is out there for everyone to see, right?
    FWIW, I did find numbers on carrier group costs. 18 ships at an average of $250K / day (operating costs + crew salary). That's roughly 4.5 million / day. At 10 days that's $45 million for the carrier group on station alone.

    I question the $200 million number, but the number is probably easily $60 million depending on how many went.

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    FWIW, I did find numbers on carrier group costs. 18 ships at an average of $250K / day (operating costs + crew salary). That's roughly 4.5 million / day. At 10 days that's $45 million for the carrier group on station alone.

    I question the $200 million number, but the number is probably easily $60 million depending on how many went.
    $2 billion! Stop the presses!

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    wc still running from his owner. lol

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    FWIW, I did find numbers on carrier group costs. 18 ships at an average of $250K / day (operating costs + crew salary). That's roughly 4.5 million / day. At 10 days that's $45 million for the carrier group on station alone.

    I question the $200 million number, but the number is probably easily $60 million depending on how many went.
    Except the Pentagon said the carrier group isn't involved.

    And even if they were for some unexplained reason, what is the difference between this job and normal operations that you just accounted for?

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    My mindset isn't in stone on this. I gave an approximate $200 million for the total trip as being excessive. It all depends on the details involved.
    For purposes of scale (and to hopefully quiet your gullible partisan paranoia), the entire military operation in Afghanistan costs 190M per day (factcheck.org).

    Are you really saying that the annual travel budget of the POTUS could even remotely be comparable? That doesn't even remotely try to be a credible claim, man. Use your head.

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    Nutcase (and senior Repug) Mic e Bachmann and s bag Drudge are pushing this slime job, which proves it's a lie. Lots of threads in here about lies pushed by ST wrongies

    No, Pentagon says, Obama will not be guarded by 34 ships

    India's NDTV website ran a report claiming a 34-ship security detail, citing the Press Trust of India, which was in turn picked up by the popular US website, Drudge Report.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/p...rded-34-ships/

    and the Indians have terminated all those murderous coconuts!
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-05-2010 at 07:15 AM.

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    This thread will pass into politics forum history as one destined for the term "classic".

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    The 3000 number includes business men. Probably to outsource more jobs to India.
    Probably taking along executives from Harley-Davidson. They are building a plant there to bypass the import taxes on finished motorcycles.

    More jobs for India.















    Except they will require parts, which are made in the US, and overall administration at corporate headquarters which has to be hired in the US.

    Outsourcing will be the result of the "free market". Are you against the free market now?

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