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  1. #51
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    Pacers >>> Denver > Lakers

    therefore

    Pacers >>>> Lakers
    Spurs beat the Pacers

  2. #52
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    & got skunked by the Suns.

  3. #53
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    & got skunked by the Suns.
    no we beat them too. exploded in Arizona

  4. #54
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    Hater, gettin' his obtuse on.

  5. #55
    Soak In Your Own Blood BanditHiro's Avatar
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    Like I said, your Spurs hit it big with your rapist.
    nope he is not a rapist...it was consensual since he had no way off paying of the girls since he was just a mere college student.

    sorry you lost again go soak in your own blood now.

    tee, hee

  6. #56
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    Uh, uh. None of that crapola.

    You're part of the Rapist Club now & forever.

    Welcome!

  7. #57
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    I don't know what is funnier, the fact that a sexual deviant like Culburn is talking rape smack or the fact that he believes smack on a 12th man would piss spurfan off

  8. #58
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    I don't know what is funnier, the fact that a sexual deviant like Culburn is talking rape smack or the fact that he believes smack on a 12th man would piss spurfan off
    Probably about even, but, you must admit it is quite quaint that your team signs a rapist after all the you shoved at us for our rapist.

  9. #59
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    Probably about even, but, you must admit it is quite quaint that your team signs a rapist after all the you shoved at us for our rapist.
    nope not a rapist sorry again if he did rape a girl he would have not been acquitted of the charges. He had no way of paying off the girl with a college student salary and it wasn't like he was going to be the number 1 pick, so he wasn't famous at all and would not be able to get away with like Kobe and OJ and Roethlisberg did.

    all he did was ride the train consensually

  10. #60
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    Hiro, you can chase your asshole round your elbow till the cow jumps over the moon, but, Neal raped, and you know it.

  11. #61
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    Not really.

    Kobe got exposed the season Phil Jax was out, he was third team all-nba and even missed the all-defensive team..
    Yeah it was all Jackson being gone. Losing Fisher, Fox, Grant, Malone, Payton, and Shaq and retaining Cook, George, Medvenko, Rush, and Walton had nothing to do with the decline of the Lakers and Kobe with them.

    He got so humbled that he asked Phil to rejoin the Lakers in 2005, after demanding for him to be thrown out in 2004. Phil was interested to return for the reasons you quote - as long as the Lakers were to grant him an multi year NBA top contract (it was $10M x 3 or 4 years)..
    He never demanded Phil to be thrown out. Show me the proof of this. THe decision to let Shaq go and the firing of PJ was clearly Dr. Buss's decision and all parties including Shaq and PJ have confirmed this. Nice try.

    Kobe returned to playoffs under Phil, but shortly before the 2007-2008 season, publicly asked to be traded. The Lakers convinced him to stay, who knows what they told him..
    They told him they would finally do what they promised him 2 years prior. That they would go out and spend some money and surround him with a team that had a chance at winning. Had they attempted to do so prior it would have never got to that stage. Regardless, Kobe handled that completely the wrong way by doing so much in public but none of us knows what was said behind closed doors prior. It all worked out beautifully I might add.


    Mitch "do it" Kupchak who was previously known for some really shrewd trades, like Butler for Kwame, added Gasol for expiring Kwame, scrubs and a second round project to be good in 3-4 years. At the time, Grizzlies owner said that he thinks his GM didn't call all NBA teams..
    Mitch had made some questionable trades as all GM's do. He also picked up some nice talent in the late rounds of the draft as well.

    It is well do ented that Pau was on the trading block for over a year. The Bulls were in talks with the Grizz that broke down a month prior to the trade. The trade worked out great for both teams and Heisley has gone on record saying so.


    Kobe needed Gasol too. Otherwise he was going to quit on the Lakers..
    Show me any player who doesnt need an all star power forward and center. And it's nice to know that you can predict what "would have happened".


    About Artest, the Lakers already won 1 without him. Previously he was typically good for a season or two, but no one knows what will happen next. The Lakers signed Barnes for a reason.
    Ron has been an excellent pick up for us and all the doubts were crushed last season. The Lakers picked up Barnes because they don't rest on their past achievements. It was an upgrade over Morrison and solidified the bench with another aggresive defensive minded SF. It was not to take over Rons job.

    Yikes!!!

  12. #62
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    & if you guys didn't have such a hot shooting rapist in Neal your would be weak.
    Cully, what's worse? A rapist like Neal/Kobe or a pedophile like you? Just asking

  13. #63
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    Yeah it was all Jackson being gone. Losing Fisher, Fox, Grant, Malone, Payton, and Shaq and retaining Cook, George, Medvenko, Rush, and Walton had nothing to do with the decline of the Lakers and Kobe with them.
    Remember, Shaq didn't walk away as free agent. The Lakers got Odom, Caron Butler and Brian Grant for him. They signed Divac for the MLE, they got Milhm not sure how, it may be for Payton who either was free agent. Karl Malone was a solid player.

    There were some injuries and Kobe threw out Malone for personal reasons. Kobe played sub-standard, his defensive talents got questioned that season.

    No one expected the Lakers to make the finals in 2005, but they missed the playoffs. In the lottery, the Lakers picked Bynum.


    He never demanded Phil to be thrown out. Show me the proof of this. THe decision to let Shaq go and the firing of PJ was clearly Dr. Buss's decision and all parties including Shaq and PJ have confirmed this. Nice try.
    Eventually Jackson, a favorite of O'Neal, was not offered a new contract by the Lakers. Many sports analysts and spectators assumed that this was because of Bryant, who had at times voiced displeasure with Jackson's offensive scheme.[30] O'Neal, who wasn't notified of the move and learned of it by watching television, asked for a trade, making it clear that he felt the Laker organization was making moves designed primarily to placate Bryant.[citation needed] Bryant, meanwhile, was involved in discussions with the Los Angeles Clippers, making it urgent for the Lakers to choose between the two players. Bryant re-signed with the Lakers soon after, and O'Neal's demand was soon indulged, as he was sent to the Miami Heat for Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, Brian Grant and a first-round draft pick.[31][32]

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    They told him they would finally do what they promised him 2 years prior. That they would go out and spend some money and surround him with a team that had a chance at winning. Had they attempted to do so prior it would have never got to that stage. Regardless, Kobe handled that completely the wrong way by doing so much in public but none of us knows what was said behind closed doors prior. It all worked out beautifully I might add.
    It's not only important to win, also how you win. Juventus has most scudettos, but it's now a known fact how.

    Lies have short legs. It's a matter of time.

    Mitch had made some questionable trades as all GM's do. He also picked up some nice talent in the late rounds of the draft as well.
    How many scouts the Lakers have? And what talent?

    It is well do ented that Pau was on the trading block for over a year. The Bulls were in talks with the Grizz that broke down a month prior to the trade. The trade worked out great for both teams and Heisley has gone on record saying so.
    The Spurs could offer much more in expiring contracts and talent. I don't follow other teams so closely, but certainly they could have offered something much better than the Lakers offer.

    Normally, it would have been impossible for the Lakers to land Gasol without giving up Odom or Bynum. But who knows what happened. The Griz GM probably got some $$$ under the table.


    Show me any player who doesnt need an all star power forward and center. And it's nice to know that you can predict what "would have happened".
    LeBron made some deep playoffs runs with limited talent. The Cavs also had the best NBA record.

    The Spurs won the 2003 championship with Duncan as only all-star.


    Ron has been an excellent pick up for us and all the doubts were crushed last season. The Lakers picked up Barnes because they don't rest on their past achievements. It was an upgrade over Morrison and solidified the bench with another aggresive defensive minded SF. It was not to take over Rons job.

    Yikes!!!
    ?

    It's a known fact Artest can't handle the pressure of the NBA. He's probably not a 100% normal person. He had problems with the Bulls, Pacers, Kings and Rockets. It's a matter of time when the things will explode with the Lakers.

    Ron already had a backup in Walton, who has considerable salary. Barnes was inexpensive, but the Lakers picked to improve the SF position. The Lakers don't trust much in Walton as backup or/and they want an insurance in case Artest goes crazy.

  14. #64
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    Cully, what's worse? A rapist like Neal/Kobe or a pedophile like you? Just asking
    Getting skunked by the Suns.

  15. #65
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    It's a known fact Artest can't handle the pressure of the NBA.
    Though he did stick Durant, JRich, and the Celtics into a hole in the ground.

  16. #66
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    Getting skunked by the Suns.
    How about being a pedophile and getting skunked by the Viets? tee, hee.

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    We lost and deserved the laughs ...

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    Yeah it was all Jackson being gone. Losing Fisher, Fox, Grant, Malone, Payton, and Shaq and retaining Cook, George, Medvenko, Rush, and Walton had nothing to do with the decline of the Lakers and Kobe with them.
    Losing Jackson had a huge part in Kobe's struggles..

    What Laker fan likes to ignore is how Rudy Tomjanovich used Kobe in 2005..he actually used him as a point guard/point forward type for most of the time he was there, kind of similar to how Lebron was used in Cleveland, although not to that full extent..

    Tomjanovich ran a penetrate and pitch scheme, in which Kobe struggled with..I'll be fair and say that he needed time to adjust and it's understandable that struggled, but it's also interesting that it's the only time that he wasn't under Phil Jackson..

    Kobe shot 40% and turned the ball over 4.6 times per game during the Tomjanovich era, where he was asked to play point..


    He never demanded Phil to be thrown out. Show me the proof of this. THe decision to let Shaq go and the firing of PJ was clearly Dr. Buss's decision and all parties including Shaq and PJ have confirmed this. Nice try.
    Phil Jackson has also confirmed that Kobe's at ude is a big part he left the Lakers..he has said that he no longer wanted to coach him at that time, and he was fed up with his at ude..


    They told him they would finally do what they promised him 2 years prior. That they would go out and spend some money and surround him with a team that had a chance at winning. Had they attempted to do so prior it would have never got to that stage. Regardless, Kobe handled that completely the wrong way by doing so much in public but none of us knows what was said behind closed doors prior. It all worked out beautifully I might add.
    Yes, it worked out beautifully, all because of Kobe's trade demands, where he on the entire organization + Andrew Bynum..not because of the shady trade..

    The Lakers were #6 in spending money on player salaries for the 2005-2006 season, and they were #3 in the 2006-2007 season..so much for that..

    They did plenty to surround him with a good supporting cast..they spent a ton of money..however, Mitch Kupchak was apparently a mediocre GM at the time, and somehow, he orchestrated the Gasol deal and changed his entire reputation + the Lakers franchise..

    It is well do ented that Pau was on the trading block for over a year. The Bulls were in talks with the Grizz that broke down a month prior to the trade. The trade worked out great for both teams and Heisley has gone on record saying so.
    Heisley said that his team made a good trade?..you mean, he didn't admit that it was bad?.. , what a shocking revelation..


    Show me any player who doesnt need an all star power forward and center. And it's nice to know that you can predict what "would have happened".
    We already know what happened..Kobe made threats and called out everybody, even some players by name through the media..

  19. #69
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    How about being a pedophile and getting skunked by the Viets? tee, hee.
    I take solace in 16 NBA World Championships.

  20. #70
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    If the Lakers lose a single game to the soft cake Spurs this season I will stop posting on ST. Forever ...;-)
    Let's see if you are a man of your word.

    I doubt ANY laker fan is...but let's give you the benefit of the doubt and see IF you stop posting for a year.

    Complete stoppage---you & YOUR TROLLS.

    Are you manning up?

    Or pussying out?

  21. #71
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    Old Silv, comin' down from the cozy confines upstairs to grift a little.

    Ya , you.

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    Old Silv, comin' down from the cozy confines upstairs to grift a little.

    Ya , you.
    slummin'...

    always seem to run into these laker fans down here...(shoos mangy cat away)

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    slummin'...

    always seem to run into these laker fans down here...(shoos mangy cat away)
    Well, you got that soft seat upstairs and the protection of the Ellis Family.

  24. #74
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    was it a bad loss? naw, a little frustrating because through three quarters with Kobe and Pau shooting like bat , the Lakers were actually up double digits. I said, they'd probably lose this game because they can't play for in Denver, Portland and Charlotte during the regular season.

    Good to see Shannon Brown step up. They lost this game on the defensive end. You can't score 112 points and lose. Sound defense wins this game; nothing offensive. They scored enough points.

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