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    Why screw around with things that right now morph into deadly things when there's already something that works?

    I don't understand your so-called logic. Absolutely nothing positive has been shown. Anywhere. Worldwide.

    You need to support your stance...not me.
    Do you deny that there is potential for ESCR to do things that ASCR can't do? Without full research, how can you tell?

    I won't argue whether or not any promise has been shown in the research to date- I don't keep up with it. But there are people who believe it shows promise and want to research, indicating there is some potential. Either that, or they just want to destroy embryos?

    What logic do you want me to support? I am not making any claims for ASCR - but for research in general. Innovation relies on exploring new things, does it not? Until it has been determined that ESCR is not at all capable of doing things ASCR cannot... there is the incentive for research.

    I don't know whether ESCR has shown that potential, but from the article you posted, it didn't seem like it is definitive that it hasn't... just that long-term research doesn't suit the demands of shareholders (as an aside, where would AIDS, cancer, and alzheimers be without federal funding? I don't think the market alone would have supported those causes).

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    PS, travis, I invite you to post links to any research that can pursuade me. I admit to not being at all knowledgable of research in this area. All my statements are based on my opinions of research in general.

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    PS, travis, I invite you to post links to any research that can pursuade me. I admit to not being at all knowledgable of research in this area. All my statements are based on my opinions of research in general.
    Scott, try here. I freely admit it is an "advocacy" site...

    http://www.stemcellresearch.org/index.html

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    Even though I was a bit discouraged when I saw this:

    Do the Math: Experimental Cloning Exploits Women
    I gave your website a decent look. The article don't appear to claim that ESCR has no potential to do what ASCR cannot - just that it hasn't to date. I stand by my position that the lack of evidence to date shouldn't be reason to discontinue further research efforts.

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    The first soap was made from the ashes of heroes, like the first monkey shot into space. Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.

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    The first soap was made from the ashes of heroes, like the first monkey shot into space. Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.
    Fine. Why don't we just make you into soap and call it even, asshole?

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    The first soap was made from the ashes of heroes, like the first monkey shot into space. Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.
    How true.

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