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    Are we seriously going to go down this idiotic road AGAIN!!!?? Christ!
    Yup, that time of year. ST's favorite pastime.

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    Are we seriously going to go down this idiotic road AGAIN!!!?? Christ!
    Got some newbies who need to work out their demons.

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    where Parker might start to seperate from Ginobili is on the defensive end. haven't seen anyone mention that. offensively it's pretty much a wash.

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    If Dartherus keeps this up he's gonna get slaughtered.

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    I know France got a silver medal in 2000 olympics....there aren't scrubs in such NT (not even today, last time I checked...they have more NBA players than any other nation outside USA in their roster)....my point is that Parker with a very powerful roster, hasn't been able to get the level of achievements gotten by players like dirk (a 3rd place in a World Cup with really crappy German NT), Pau Gasol (World Champ) or Manu Ginobili (Olympic champ)...that's the point....
    what powerful roster ? just lol. Yeah on the paper France has a powerful roster too bad they never played together.

    I don't see the link between TP and the 2000 silver medal tbh.
    We also won the silver medal in 1948 BTW.

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    check NBA.com, and take notice the mpg also....



    TP could be replaced with any of the freaking athletes good at scoring that are in NBA...
    wow

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    Oh my god... not that again...

    We have one of the best backcourt in the history of this league, and people still ing about Parker vs Manu.
    I honestly don't understand why you guys can't enjoy this amazing situation.

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    Oh my god... not that again...

    We have one of the best backcourt in the history of this league, and people still ing about Parker vs Manu.
    I honestly don't understand why you guys can't enjoy this amazing situation.
    It's fine until they start talking about how Parker is just a "good" guard that could be replaced by any athletic player in the league.

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    On old fashioned Tony vs. Manu thread. Hadn't seen one of these in a while.

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    If Dartherus keeps this up he's gonna get slaughtered.
    Getting rantsd as answers are not being slaughtered....getting ARGUMENTS showing how Parker has been better than Manu in D, in PER ratings, how Parker has been able to do something with a roster equal or better to the argentinian NT (and who had been able to win a silver medal in 2000 olympics, yet for the next olympic cycle Parker was not able to lead them into anything)....

    In short, how parker has been able to lead a team to a notorious achievement without being backed up by Tim and Manu....

    when someone show such facts as wrong, that would be getting myself slaughtered.....the rest are just rants and ings...

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    TP could be replaced with any of the freaking athletes good at scoring that are in NBA..


    Thread should have ended right here.


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    Getting rantsd as answers are not being slaughtered....getting ARGUMENTS showing how Parker has been better than Manu in D, in PER ratings, how Parker has been able to do something with a roster equal or better to the argentinian NT (and who had been able to win a silver medal in 2000 olympics, yet for the next olympic cycle Parker was not able to lead them into anything)....
    So just curious, how is it that Manu is so much better at scoring, but Parker is averaging as many points despite not firing away from 3 nearly as often or going to the line as often as Manu?

    How is Manu so much better on D, but Parker is averaging more steals than he is?

    How is it that Manu is so much better with the ball, but Parker is averaging MORE assists and FEWER turnovers (not fewer turnovers per minute, he's averaging fewer turnovers total than Manu) despite having the ball in his hands for most of the game?

    In short, how parker has been able to lead a team to a notorious achievement without being backed up by Tim and Manu....
    What does NT accomplishments have anything to do with the NBA? They don't. Stop bringing it up like it matters.

    when someone show such facts as wrong, that would be getting myself slaughtered.....the rest are just rants and ings...
    I've posted a lot of stats that you have yet to even address, choosing instead to cherry-pick the few that favor Manu and making ridiculous statements like the one I quoted above.

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    Tony Parker might just be the most valuable point guard in the league. But the most valuable player on the Spurs is Ginobili. He's the 2nd best 2 guard in the NBA and one of the best players. But it's clear that he has intangibles nobody else has.

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    So just curious, how is it that Manu is so much better at scoring, but Parker is averaging as many points despite not firing away from 3 nearly as often or going to the line as often as Manu?
    Where did I write that Manu was better at scoring? care to show me?

    Are you aware that PER rating implies much more than just scoring?

    How is Manu so much better on D, but Parker is averaging more steals than he is?
    Go tell that to a good coach, and hear him LOL...

    Anyway, Manu has always had more spg than Parker in former seasons, but having more spg doesnt mean to be a better defender, Basketball Coach 101 could be fine for you....

    How is it that Manu is so much better with the ball, but Parker is averaging MORE assists and FEWER turnovers (not fewer turnovers per minute, he's averaging fewer turnovers total than Manu) despite having the ball in his hands for most of the game?
    again? I already answered this,,, are you aware that Tony plays POINT GUARD and Manu shooting guard?

    do you realize how much time is TP with the ball in his hands? well, check the 101 course and we'll talk later kid....


    What does NT accomplishments have anything to do with the NBA? They don't. Stop bringing it up like it matters.
    Because it matters when you evaluate a player's resume.....

    Because it shows that Manu can lead a team, being the MVP and getting les, WITHOUT DUNCAN OR PARKER (noit only his NT, but also his teams in Europe)....

    But Parker has failed miserably to achieve that without Tim and Manu....despite having a roster that had won a silver medal in the olympics without him (you can't have the excuse of lack of team play)...despite France having the most NBA player in his roster than any other country not named USA....but hey, Parker goes there, score a lot, but overall results of the team with him are far from being stellar, as players like Dirk, Pau, Scola or Manu has showed in such compe ions....

    The only chances that TP has to show his worth without Tim and Manu are in such compe ions, and so far, he hasn't lived to the expectation....at least not to an equivalent of Manu's...


    I've posted a lot of stats that you have yet to even address, choosing instead to cherry-pick the few that favor Manu and making ridiculous statements like the one I quoted above.[/QUOTE]

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    Tony Parker might just be the most valuable point guard in the league. But the most valuable player on the Spurs is Ginobili. He's the 2nd best 2 guard in the NBA and one of the best players. But it's clear that he has intangibles nobody else has.
    Manu is the MVP of the team this year

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