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Nazr needs to go to big man camp this summer.
Those trades are just unrealistic. The only 2 which are seven close to being realistic is to Memphis for Battier or for MoPete, but Toronto love Peterson. The Battier idea is great though, Memphis dont have a legit big body, and Battier's at ude and game would fit perfect on the Spurs.All signs point to Rasho getting shipped out for a SF who can replace Bowen in 2-3 years. Even though a lot of folks don't think greatly of Rasho, the reality of the NBA is he's a top 7 center in the league, and that means 23 teams would love to have his services.
As for potential targets:
Golden State Warriors (JRich, Pietrus)
Hawks (Childress, JSmooth)
Memphis (Battier, Miller)
Toronto (MoPete)
Celtics (Jefferson)
Bulls (Deng, Nocioni)
Bucks (Mason)
And my personal fave, although for obvious reasons it has a snowball's chance in of happening, would be to work something out with the Clippers to do a sign and trade for Bobby Simmons.
I realise that Rasho would have some value around the NBA, and I have no doubt that playing without Tim Duncan his offensive numbers would improve, but trading him for Jason Richardson? The same Richardson that averaged 21/5/5, the only players I can think of that did that were McGrady, LeBron, Kobe maybe Wade and perhaps 1-2 others.
I think if the Spurs were looking to trade him, it would be for a younger type player who they can brainwash into the Spurs system so he can start in 2/3 years. Can't think of any young SF's out there, but there is plenty.
Nazr needs to go to big man camp this summer.
Pete Newell big man camp, no thanks.
The less Nazr tries to do post moves, the better for the team.
Memphis for Battier
good defensively, good outside shooter. Ill take that trade in a new york minute.
i dont know, his post moves looked good last night.The less Nazr tries to do post moves, the better for the team.
Id be all for it.
rasho needs to go to big men camp
Nazr's post moves have impoved but the suns made him look like hakeem.
Do ya'll think the Spurs will resign Nazr??
Yeah, we definitely need to dump his salary if he's only going to play 15mins a night.
Pietrus might be a steal... or Battier woukd be fine.
Be interesting to see what the front office will do - I think they'll keep Rasho and Barry into next season, evaluate their progress, and if they get rid of them trade for a prospect like Pietrus and maybe an ending contract.
Will Big Dog come back for the minimum next year?
Could Scola play the 3 in the NBA, or is his shooting not good enough/is he too slow?
Scola is a PF only.
I love Rasho and will be devasated if he is traded. More than anything, I want Rasho to be where he is wanted and will feel useful.
What I don't want is for Rasho to take Malik's place on the trading block. That's no way to live.
And Nazr is amazing! I don't know what we would have done without him.
Please. That's no way to live? The dude is making 6M+ a year playing in the NBA. That's hardly a bad life. I would go play basketball in the sand dunes of Saudi Arabia for $6 million a year.
I would love a Rasho for Battier trade. I have always like his game even back during his Duke days.
agreed fitty.
Cant say as I have any bad or hurt feelings for Rasho. hes had millions of chances, and hes makin 7 mill a year.
Id say hes doin ok.
I may be smoking a little bit of crack thinking we could get JRich, you are underestimating the value of a top 7-8 center in the league.Those trades are just unrealistic.
That means there's 20 teams out there looking for a legit center, which Rasho certainly qualifies as.
My top targets are Pietrus, Battier, Simmons, and Mo Pete. Give me any of those as our Bowen replacement for the rest of the Tim Duncan era, I won't complain.
Can't imagine Golden State or the Clips biting on those trades, they're pretty much set for bigs or will be after the draft. I think Memphis would be very willing to deal -- they've been searching for a true center for years and will probably lose one of their "fake" centers this summer. Rasho/Gasol/Wright/Cardinal would make for a very good frontline rotation -- I'd actually have a bit of trepidation making that trade in the same division.
i saw the name of pietrus coming back but i think he will stay in goldenstate.
baron there being a close friend of pietrus (they spend all their time together) golden is counting on the break out year for pietrus. and i think they might play the Suns copy by going small with dunleavy at PF, pietrus F, richardson, G and davis PG
but the one i would see, just a little less athletic but taller also playing both 2 and 3 spot and from the same school of defensive basket is Boris diaw.
next year if he is not a spur take a look at his play and you will be amazed. his team just do not want him so he could be a really cheap acquisition.
I agree it would be hard to get Simmons out of LA, but if you're the Spurs and you're going to get a sign and trade of Simmons for Rasho, you can throw in Donald Sterling's personal crack - all the draft picks you want - and not sweat it too much.
You could also dangle the rights to our other foreigners (Javtokas, Sanikidze) out there, I think he'd like the idea of cheap Euro talent as well.
Rasho's exit is next on the to do list after winning a championship.
Even about the FT's and Pop's O?I won't complain.
i think all our chodes are exploding a little about scola
yes he's from argentina
but be realistic
small
weak
bad rebounder, bad defender
these things he can learn in the NBA, i hope he does
but people on here make it sound like he's hakeem olajuwon
At first I thought he stunk....but...he has fit in nicely and is an important contributer.
My beefs with him are:
Horrible hands....needs more stick-um.
tends to get his dunks blocked a little too often.
His "D" against guards penetrating is not too good yet....but he seems to be improving each game.
He kinda reminds me of Kevin Willis of 2003 only younger and more productive....he comes in and gets important rebounds like Willis did.
Go tell that to Team USA, and in particular Jermaine O'Neal.bad rebounder, bad defender
He's not going to start, he's going to come off the bench for 10-15 minutes a game. If Malik Rose at 6'4" could do it, I'm pretty confident in Luis.
Zeke already has next years first rounder, so there can't be too many picks that could interest him. Also, how many minutes could the Clips expect to play Rasho with Kaman and Brand and Wilcox there as well? , some mocks even have them picking up Tiago Splitter. I said that about 20 teams would want Rasho - I can't include the Clippers in that group. I simply don't believe that Sterling wouldn't just spend the same money just to keep Simmons next season -- it would be what Maggette will make as well and really, who's going to offer more?I agree it would be hard to get Simmons out of LA, but if you're the Spurs and you're going to get a sign and trade of Simmons for Rasho, you can throw in Donald Sterling's personal crack - all the draft picks you want - and not sweat it too much.
I know Chump. I'm just a big Bobby Simmons fan, if there's any way we can get him, I have to keep smoking the good crack
It's funny, I did some checking and it seems that Elgin Baylor is not even aware of the sign-and-trade provisions of the CBA -- there hasn't been one for the Clips in at least the last ten years. If Rasho's traded, I think Battier might be the one of the easier deals.
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