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    Voting isn't a luxury.
    No, it's a ing charade in USA. It's a dog-and-pony show to fool the sheeple into "believing" in democracy, as they "believe" in ID/144-hour New Earth creationism, and "believe" in "natural" global warming, because the carbon industries' false prophets preached at them.

    The so-called "elected" VRWC-financed tea baggers, their caucus, is asking for $1B in earmarks, mostly for red-states and red districts, which are always pocketing more fed $ than paying in taxes, but they hate (confiscatory, redistributive) socialism while benefiting from it.

    The whole ing country is a fraud, a sham, a TV/church-y bread-and-circuses igno-tainment show business as the oligarchy buggers everyone and solidfies its strangelhold.

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    The whole ing country is a fraud, a sham, a TV/church-y bread-and-circuses igno-tainment show business as the oligarchy buggers everyone and solidfies its strangelhold.
    Have you considered emigration?

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    Love It Or Leave It?

    Now where have I heard that before?

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    I didn't say you have to love it. But if you despise it so much, despairing all possibility of its rehabilitation, why not leave?


    (Unless of course it turns you on to be a Cassandra, like Bartleby suggested.)

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    You tell us what a wonderful country the oligarchs have created.

    And then tell us in concrete, practical terms how to snatch it back from the oligarchs.

    It really is different this time, and there's NO FDR/Great Depression/WWII ready to step in and turn it around. The country is under complete control of the relentlelss, sophisticated, kleptocratic oligarchs, and nobody can do a ing thing about it.

    If I were a Scandinavian, or Frenchman, or German, or Swiss, I'd have much better prospects and quality of life than in USA, but I'm a US citizen.

    Cassandra?

    "the temple snakes licked her ears clean so that she was able to hear the future."

    "Apollo placed a curse on her so that no one would ever believe her predictions. She is a figure both of the epic tradition and of tragedy, where her combination of deep understanding and powerlessness exemplify the tragic condition of humankind."



    I'm not making any predictions, just looking at the facts of the near past and present.
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    Bulll .

    You make predictions all the time. You refer to the future as a forgone conclusion.

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    But you're not Cassandra. The temple snakes didn't lick your ears clean, and Apollo didn't lay a curse on you.
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    And your predictions of the future, delivered as they are with the perfect certainty of the present, are utterly and predictably worthless. No one knows the future.
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    You tell us what a wonderful country the oligarchs have created.
    All I have suggested is that they have not quite destroyed it completely. Apparently, this enrages you.
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    And then tell us in concrete, practical terms how to snatch it back from the oligarchs.
    I can't answer that. Can you?

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    If you actually prefer to stay in the USA and in particular in Texas I won't venture to disagree, but I am curious as to why. Why do you live here and not somewhere else?

    If you're jealous of Scandinavia/Germany/France/Switzerland, why not check <them> out? seriously. Your reflexive anti-US emphasis might even come in handy.

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    I can't answer that. Can you?
    No, of course not. There is no answer.

    The Repug/conservative conspiracy these past 30-35 years to redistribute wealth to the top has given the oligarchs so much power (ie, control of political/legislative/regulatory/military/security/financial apparatus) that the citizens are completely powerless, disenfranchised. Even the NRA less gun fetishists and their "2nd Amendment remedies" would be crushed like the insects at, Ruby Ridge/Wacko TX-style.

    Keep up your Pollyanna fantasies, they ain't gonna be realized.

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    No, of course not. There is no answer.

    The Repug/conservative conspiracy these past 30-35 years to redistribute wealth to the top has given the oligarchs so much power (ie, control of political/legislative/regulatory/military/security/financial apparatus) that the citizens are completely powerless, disenfranchised. Even the NRA less gun fetishists and their "2nd Amendment remedies" would be crushed like the insects at, Ruby Ridge/Wacko TX-style.

    Keep up your Pollyanna fantasies, they ain't gonna be realized.
    So much hate...so little sanity.

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    You mean socialist programs like bailing out Wall Street, or unpaid tax cuts?
    How many republicans voted for a wall street bailout? How many democrats? How many of those republicans are more liberal, and should be democrats?

    Unpaid tax cuts...

    God... I ing hate assholes like you who think my money belongs to the government, and I get what they choose.

    You should really think about that "unpaid tax cut" sentiment.

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    Keep up your Pollyanna fantasies, they ain't gonna be realized.
    My Pollyanna fantasy is that liberty and the old republican form have not yet been totally vanquished and corrupted, not that they will regenerate to any appreciable degree.

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    I didn't say you have to love it. But if you despise it so much, despairing all possibility of its rehabilitation, why not leave?


    (Unless of course it turns you on to be a Cassandra, like Bartleby suggested.)
    That's what I've always wondered about boutons. He takes the time, every single day for the past 5 years (that's how long I've visited this website, so maybe it's more) to come on this site and , moan, and complain about what a terrible place the United States is becaue of the way it's governed, yet he's never offered a solution.

    Furthermore, there isn't anything wrong with leaving this country if you feel you could have better opportunities elsewhere. When I was a kid during the recession of the early 80's, my Dad made the decision for all of us to leave and head to Australia because there were opportunities there. We did, he did well, then we came back. What the is the problem?

    So I gues my point is, Boutons, you are all talk. You'll never do anything to solve your own problems, but rather, you'll just come on a message board that primarily focuses on a sports franchise and just cry all day and all night.....so my question is.....why bother?

    Funniest part is he'll never read this cause I hurt his feelings once and he ignored me.

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    I keep thinking Boutons will be ST's next suicide. I can't imagine going through life with his "I'm so ed, we're so ed, everything is so ed, VRWC blablabla" at ude.

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    I keep thinking Boutons will be ST's next suicide. I can't imagine going through life with his "I'm so ed, we're so ed, everything is so ed" at ude.
    No kidding. I wonder if he's manic, or what?

    Boutons...

    How long have you been off your meds?

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    I keep thinking Boutons will be ST's next suicide. I can't imagine going through life with his "I'm so ed, we're so ed, everything is so ed, VRWC blablabla" at ude.
    I give it 1 hour before he replies with his standard "I post here for entertainment purposes and I, Boutons, own all".

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