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    So tell me then oh wise ones...

    Why are there so many teen single mothers?

    I know how much it takes to raise kids RIGHT. But do they?

    You really think when you are living in a hole with hole parents and teen hormones/stupidity to boot that getting $25,000 a year for having a couple of kids doesn't sound attractive? At that age it sounds like a damn fortune...then they just end up living in a hole and being a hole parent raising hole kids. Rinse and repeat.

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    3 ways out of the hood: Sports, Lottery, and get rich via welfare. Thats how they see it.

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    I don't understand drunk drivers. Do these drunk drivers really think "i'm going to drive drunk because having to get a cab is annoying"?
    drunk driving isnt a good metaphor for having kids unless you procreate while drunk. ive known several girls who've gotten pregnant because they didnt remember that night, and the dude denies everything. alcohol can be a big problem in those situations.

    that said, you still have the option of pulling out, or better yet, wearing a condom. drunks dont have the option to sober up before they start driving.

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    You know, the idea that a teenage girl goes and gets pregnant because they want a free slushie is something I'd expect out of South Park.

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    drunk driving isnt a good metaphor for having kids unless you procreate while drunk. ive known several girls who've gotten pregnant because they didnt remember that night, and the dude denies everything. alcohol can be a big problem in those situations.

    that said, you still have the option of pulling out, or better yet, wearing a condom. drunks dont have the option to sober up before they start driving.
    LOL what?

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    You know, the idea that a teenage girl goes and gets pregnant because they want a free slushie is something I'd expect out of South Park.
    I thought you'd like that Manny...

    Seriously though...Being a teenager in a good middle class family is tough enough. Add the stress of being in a borderline welfare family with parents and getting paid by the government to get pregnant and have a child that "will love you" sounds really attractive.

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    So tell me then oh wise ones...

    Why are there so many teen single mothers?
    Because teens are stupid. Teens do alot of stupid stuff. I'm sure you did stupid stuff as well. (Obviously, there are degrees of stupidity, but the main point is that teens don't think things through.)

    You really think when you are living in a hole with hole parents and teen hormones/stupidity to boot that getting $25,000 a year for having a couple of kids doesn't sound attractive? At that age it sounds like a damn fortune...then they just end up living in a hole and being a hole parent raising hole kids. Rinse and repeat.
    $25,000 a year? Are you sure you're not high-balling that?

    And SOME kids may think that, yes. But I doubt the majority are like that. Most are young, dumb, and "in love". Let's face it, not many teenagers think long-term.

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    that said, you still have the option of pulling out, or better yet, wearing a condom. drunks dont have the option to sober up before they start driving.
    They have the option of calling a cab, calling a friend, staying there, etc etc. If they choose to drive drunk, then it's a stupid decision.

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    thats the point. it doesnt make sense to compare the two unless youre talking about the use of alcohol in both situations (driving and having sex.)

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    Because teens are stupid. Teens do alot of stupid stuff. I'm sure you did stupid stuff as well. (Obviously, there are degrees of stupidity, but the main point is that teens don't think things through.)



    $25,000 a year? Are you sure you're not high-balling that?

    And SOME kids may think that, yes. But I doubt the majority are like that. Most are young, dumb, and "in love". Let's face it, not many teenagers think long-term.
    I don't think so..I looked into it once...I don't remember the exact numbers, but for a single teen mother with 2 kids by the time you added up cash payments, lone star card (they add to payments and card every time you have another kid) housing subsidies, etc. it can easily hit 25K a year.

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    They have the option of calling a cab, calling a friend, staying there, etc etc. If they choose to drive drunk, then it's a stupid decision.

    so what do drinking & driving and getting a girl pregnant have to do with each other?

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    I don't think so..I looked into it once...I don't remember the exact numbers, but for a single teen mother with 2 kids by the time you added up cash payments, lone star card (they add to payments and card every time you have another kid) housing subsidies, etc. it can easily hit 25K a year.
    And how much does baby food, diapers and other supplies for two children work out to be?

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    so what do drinking & driving and getting a girl pregnant have to do with each other?
    Getting pregnant early = stupid mistake/decision

    Drinking and driving = stupid mistake/decision

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    So tell me then oh wise ones...

    Why are there so many teen single mothers?
    free slushies apparently.

    I know how much it takes to raise kids RIGHT. But do they?

    You really think when you are living in a hole with hole parents and teen hormones/stupidity to boot that getting $25,000 a year for having a couple of kids doesn't sound attractive? At that age it sounds like a damn fortune...then they just end up living in a hole and being a hole parent raising hole kids. Rinse and repeat.
    where are you getting $25k from?

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    drunks dont have the option to sober up before they start driving.
    they have the option of staying sober or giving up their car keys before drinking.

    ....but that wasn't the point of my original analogy.

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    Getting pregnant early = stupid mistake/decision

    Drinking and driving = stupid mistake/decision

    im saying that alcohol is the lurking variable in the comparison. comparing the use of alcohol with teen pregnancy rates is a valid study. comparing drunk driving with teen pregnancy rates isnt. that's all.

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    I thought you'd like that Manny...

    Seriously though...
    so now you are saying you weren't serious when you said "free slushies"


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    im saying that alcohol is the lurking variable in the comparison. comparing the use of alcohol with teen pregnancy rates is a valid study. comparing drunk driving with teen pregnancy rates isnt. that's all.
    You just asked me for the comparison, and I gave it to you. Drunk driving is a dumb decision. Getting pregnant early is a dumb decision. Putting all your life savings in a volatile stock is a dumb decision. Etc etc

    People make dumb decisions every day, throughout the world. Teenagers probably make more dumb decisions than adults. Most teen pregnancies are probably dumb decisions.

    I don't think I can spell it out any easier.

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    so now you are saying you weren't serious when you said "free slushies"

    off and let the adults talk...

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    And how much does baby food, diapers and other supplies for two children work out to be?
    You think those teenagers really put a pen to it?

    Whats your point?

    I know it's stupid for them to get pregnant for the "money". So do you.

    Apparently they don't.

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    I thought you'd like that Manny...

    Seriously though...Being a teenager in a good middle class family is tough enough. Add the stress of being in a borderline welfare family with parents and getting paid by the government to get pregnant and have a child that "will love you" sounds really attractive.
    CC, the govt. does not pay them to get pregnant. Stop with the strawmen already.

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    You think those teenagers really put a pen to it?

    Whats your point?

    I know it's stupid for them to get pregnant for the "money". So do you.

    Apparently they don't.
    They want that Obama money!

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    off and let the adults talk...
    I know it's easier just to say off than to back up your stupid claims of free slushies and $25k incomes.

    Nothing new from you. What an idiot.

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    I don't think so..I looked into it once...I don't remember the exact numbers, but for a single teen mother with 2 kids by the time you added up cash payments, lone star card (they add to payments and card every time you have another kid) housing subsidies, etc. it can easily hit 25K a year.
    I can tell you for a fact, since I currently have a dead beat step daughter trying to milk the program, it don't hit anywhere near 25k a year. And housing subsidies are independent of whether or not there's a kid in the mix, so you can chunk that little bit out of the mix.

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    You think those teenagers really put a pen to it?

    Whats your point?

    I know it's stupid for them to get pregnant for the "money". So do you.

    Apparently they don't.
    You think that kids are stupid enough to see another teen mom getting free slushies and think that's heaven.

    I think kids who are old enough to have children realize that food/diapers/etc costs money.

    That's my point. Teens may be stupid in having kids, but I didn't say they were re ed and think that their babies were fed on sunshine and smiles.

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