Mark Cuban " Dirk will go down as top 10 NBA player of all time"

[baseline bum]

Barkley
Malone
Stockton
Kevin Johnson
Ewing

Elgin Baylor is better than all of them.

[diego]

active players with more rebounds than dirk:

shaq
kg
duncan
ben wallace
camby
marion
(kidd is only 34 boards behind him )

active players with more assists than dirk:
too many to list, but dirk is between luke ridnour and jose calderon

active players with more blocks:
16 of them, dirk is between shawn marion and haywood.

active players with more points:
shaq
kobe
kg


the only things dirk is elite in are points and rebounds. but when we go all time, he drops to 60th in rebounds and 26th in points. kg, who mavs fans have been scoffing at, tops him in both categories, as well as assists, blocks, defense, les and individual accolades.

dirk is definitely a top 10 jumpshooter of all time, maybe that's what cuban meant. otherwise he is effectively trolling

[diego]

you're right, I'm selling dirk short. He managed to drag the mavs franchise above .500, that is a gargantuan task in and of itself.

[Juanobili]

Top 10 foreign players, yeah maybe... but thats about it lol

[tdunk21]

Top 10 all time choker, yes

[tdunk21]

dumb owner, dumb team and dumb fans......lol

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

lol butthurt s

[diego]

it's almost as big a task as being able to drag your fatass off the couch

are you saying diego > dirk? because it doesnt take me 10+ years to get off a couch.
thanks, i think.

[z0sa]

No, I'm saying you're fat.

You do know Dallas is currently the #1 fattest city in America?

[Cry Havoc]

KG and Dirk is very debatable. KG's first 10 years was greater than Dirk's first 10. Dirk is more a catalyst for his Mavs than KG, but KG is being considered a dpoy favorite this year. That would be 2 dpoy in the last 4 years. Really impressive also.

I don't think so. KG was a monster on both sides of the ball. He dominated defensively and was pretty dominant offensively as well -- not as much as Dirk, but his defense more than makes up for it.

If I have to pick a player today in their prime to build a championship team around and character wasn't a concern, I'd take KG every time. I'd kinda hate myself for it though, because he's a massive bag of s.

[8FOR!3]

Dirk's not top 10, probably not even top 20, but that'd have to take some thought to decide. But that doesn't take anything away from him at all, I've got a lot of respect for him as a player and compe or, but there's been some true greats throughout the history of the league.

[diego]

No, I'm saying you're fat.

ahh. Too bad you cant prove that. Whereas I can prove, that Dirk is worse than KG and most definitely not top 10 all time, and that the mavs are at best a mediocre, ringless franchise.

[Juanobili]

who decides these top-10, 20 10 lists anyways?

If that makes Dirk and Cuban happy, then good for them

[Juanobili]

I guess that would be some kind of insult if the Mavs franchise was somehow a reflection on me.

You're a Mavs fan

[monosylab1k]

Whereas I can prove, that Dirk is worse than KG

prove it.

[monosylab1k]

You're a Mavs fan

[diego]

funny, it says dallas mavericks under your name, it doesnt say fat under mine, but I'm the one making wild conclusions. care to comment on dirk's standing or is racist lol jokes all you got?

[IronMexican]

I used to think Gold Tooth Carl was a mid troll, but with his mavfan ball washing, I now know it isn't him. Prob some spurfan who should be re-greyed.

[Deimosfobos]

It will take at least 2 rings for him to even sniff the top 20.

[Cry Havoc]

I can't help where I'm born Juan. You on the other hand can control the amount of Taco Cabana you eat but you chose not to.

Weight smack. This is rich.

[diego]

kg:
all nba: 9 (4 1stteam)
all defense: 11
MVP: 1
DPOY: 1
all time pts: 22660
all time rebounds: 12,438
all time blocks: 1809
all time assists: 4778

dirk:
all nba: 10 (4 1st team)
all defense: 0
MVP: 1
DPOY: 0
all time pts: 21737
all time rebounds: 7994
all time blocks: 959
all time assists: 2523

summary:
all nba: +1 dirk
all defense: +11 kg
mvp: even
dpoy: +1 kg
pts: +923 kg
rebounds: +4444 kg
blocks: +850 kg
assists: +2255 kg

could've included steals but why bother. dirk has one more all nba selection. he is a better jumpshooter and a great scorer. kg s on him in every other category. dirk is two years younger but you can't project future production because of possible injury; even if you did, he will never eclipse KG in anything but points scored

[JamStone]

Statistical totals is a skewed comparison when one player has played three more seasons and about 200 more games than the other. Plus even with the choke jobs in 2006 and 2007, Dirk has been a better player in the playoffs than KG and arguably with less talent around him.

I'm on the fence. I think an argument can be made for either player being better than the other depending on what you look for. I might lean towards KG, but it's certainly arguable either way. Plus, Dirk s on KG over the last couple seasons.

[Muser]

Barkley
Malone
Stockton
Kevin Johnson
Ewing

I'd take Dirk over Stockton Johnson and Ewing. Would rank Malone over Dirk but idk about Barkley.

[tdunk21]

kg:
all nba: 9 (4 1stteam)
all defense: 11
MVP: 1
DPOY: 1
all time pts: 22660
all time rebounds: 12,438
all time blocks: 1809
all time assists: 4778

dirk:
all nba: 10 (4 1st team)
all defense: 0
MVP: 1
DPOY: 0
all time pts: 21737
all time rebounds: 7994
all time blocks: 959
all time assists: 2523

summary:
all nba: +1 dirk
all defense: +11 kg
mvp: even
dpoy: +1 kg
pts: +923 kg
rebounds: +4444 kg
blocks: +850 kg
assists: +2255 kg

could've included steals but why bother. dirk has one more all nba selection. he is a better jumpshooter and a great scorer. kg s on him in every other category. dirk is two years younger but you can't project future production because of possible injury; even if you did, he will never eclipse KG in anything but points scored

mav s being owned....

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Just make's Mark Cuban look like a bigger ass.