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Gee I don't know, maybe because Arroyo actually plays for Puerto Rico and not the US?
If you HAVE to win, you put MANU in over Dirk. Manu will come up with something big whether it be a defensive steal/stop/keeping ball inbounds/charge or a shot/offensive play.
Dirk is an amazing shooter, but Manu is 10000000% heart. He could be a quadruple amputee and still do something to contribute.
Gee I don't know, maybe because Arroyo actually plays for Puerto Rico and not the US?
Really? All 17 of them?
You swap manu for Dirk and you have Duncan and Dirk together. Thats a tough combo on the frontline. The spurs are deep in the backcourt, Hill and Anderson can take the minutes at the 2. Can't pass up Dirk for Manu.
I think becoming a naturalized citizen at the age of 30 makes one an international player.
There no diff. except the fact the Virgin Islands never had a National basketball team when Duncan was playing for the U.S. If there was, he said he would no doubt have played on the Virgin island teams. - Thank god he didn't, he would have been the anchor of those teams and shortened his career even further.Gee I don't know, maybe because Arroyo actually plays for Puerto Rico and not the US?
But back to manu or Dirk? I would say Dirk because he is 7 feet tall and ungaurdable. Manu is the same way, but he has to work much harder to do those things on the court. Although I say its very very close. The way Manu can do all things on the court is just amazing, but you know Dirk can hit 3's all day where as Manu can do what he does for certain parts of the game.
MJ won his first ring when he was 28. Dra˛en was in his prime and would be a great player at least until 33. He was a great shooter and I see him just as Ray Allen who is also old, but is still one of the best shooters in this league.
Not sure where they go on the list but Gasol, Nash, Mutombo and our own Tony Parker should also be mentioned.
They did and he didn't.
The Virgin Islands have had a national basketball for decades. In fact, the Virgin Islands NT was in the same group as the US team led by Duncan at the 2003 FIBA Americas championship. The two teams met on August 23, 2003 with the Duncan-led Americans defeating the VI by a score of 113-55.
Had he played for the Virgin Islands then I probably would've considered him an international player, but the fact that he hasn't, that he played for the US national team and that he played for 4 years in the NCAA and the rest of his life in the NBA makes him not an international player in my book.
The Manu/Dirk argument depends on what your team needs at the time. You can't compare Dirk and Manu straight up though........ lots of bad comparisons being drawn here.
There is no right answer. It depends on how you define it. If you count strictly any player born outside of the U.S., then it's Duncan first, then Hakeem and everyone else is a distant third.
If you say any player who attended an American university doesn't count (meaning Nash and Ewing too) then it's a different conversation, and Sabonis and Petrovic would be considered.
However, if you define it strictly as foreign born players who didn't attend a US university and who are judged strictly on what they've done in the NBA and nothing else...
then it's between Dirk, Pau and Manu, period. IMO, they're all very close and the argument of who's the best between them changes almost daily. Manu is the most complete, but he almost has to be by definition because he's a swingman.
I'd just say Dirk's the best scorer/shooter, Pau's the best big and Manu's the best all-around/clutch player and leave it at that. I guess it's a cop-out.
Yes, all 17 of them.
Dirk is just a way better player than Manu. I don't even see how someone could disagree with that.
love me some gino, but dirk is better
I dont remember exactly what interview it was from. But in Duncan's early years, they talked about how the Virgin Islands never had a legitament national team that could play in the olympics. I don't know. I'm probably wrong about this.They did and he didn't.
The Virgin Islands have had a national basketball for decades. In fact, the Virgin Islands NT was in the same group as the US team led by Duncan at the 2003 FIBA Americas championship. The two teams met on August 23, 2003 with the Duncan-led Americans defeating the VI by a score of 113-55.
But once Tim Duncan stepped into uniform for the US national team, he was no longer eligible to play for his Virgin Islands team. I also remember in that interview Tim Duncan saying he would have loved to play for the Virgin Islands basketball team because his friends were all on the team and it hurt him to beat them.
It was a real television source like TNT or NBC. I just can't find any videos or anything on it on the internet.
Probably they meant that they aren't good enough to get to the Olympics and/or do anything there.
That's not what you initially said. You said that he played for the American team because there was no team from the VI.
Yea. I was definitely wrong. The reason why he chose U.S team over the V.I team wasn't very clear, and I dont remember exactly. The point I was trying to make was that Duncan said he would have chose to play with the V.I had he the opportunity. I thought the V.I didnt' have a team, I guess I was wrong.That's not what you initially said. You said that he played for the American team because there was no team from the VI.
That would make Duncan seem like a Lebron-type bandwagoner. I don't think Duncan would do that, but again, I could be wrong.Probably they meant that they aren't good enough to get to the Olympics and/or do anything there.
Yes, I am serious.
Tim Duncan plays for the US National Team, that makes him from the US.
Or Manu will foul Dirk and the Spurs will lose the WC finals
Well, Dirk might be better but I don't think he is way better than Manu, IMO they're both in the tier behind the superstars, if Manu would have had the chance of beign a go to guy in his prime I know for sure that he would have been succesful, Spurs fans should know that Ginobili is underrated.
And Dirk is one of the greatest shooters of all-time but I think he's a little overrated because of this, people look at this part of his game in awe and overlook the fact that he's a below average rebounder (for a star PF), defender and passer (for any kind of player).
Disclaimer: I'm talking about the Dirk we got 'till this season, the 47% shooter, if he keeps his current crazy efficiency through the whole season he more than makes up for his shortcomings in other areas and should be the MVP.
No, Duncan is from the USVI. Everyone from the USVI have US citizenship from birth. He has been a US citizen his entire life. That is irrelevant from which national team he played for at the Olympics.
Chuck & kenny. kenny Smith only has a le cuz he was riding the rockets bench behind Olajuwan, Drexler, Horry, Maxwell, Thorpe, & Ellie. Chuck couldn't get it done and then tried to do it with the rockets but still coulnd'nt get it done. They dont know about .
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