yeah, if he could make the three part of his game that would be sick.
The French talking about unguardable
nobody cares if Tony becomes unguardable, what is winning us games is when Tony penetrates and penetrates. What matters is him going by old ass Derek Fisher and Jason Kidd. And he can. He can.
Besides, this is not the 08 spurs where defenses need to concentrate on Parker to stop us. We got too many weapons. Team play and health is whats gonna get us past the Lakers/Mavs.
TP should save the 3 for when he gets old and loses his speed i.e Kidd.
I'm wondering if those corner 3s are designed plays for Tony.
No, just take the shots he has in rhythm.
I always thought he would eventually start shooting threes, after he got more comfortable with his shot would start moving it back some, but he never did.
Even though you could argue that he's a great penetrator, and that we have enough three point shooters, I'd be curious to see how he'd do if he shot more of them.
I mean right now he's a deadly accurate jump shooter, in the last month and a half his free throw shooting percentage has skyrocketed, so it makes me wonder more than anything else.
You also have to consider the fact that most of his 3's are bailout shots, and he still shoots a decent %, imagine if a play were run for him, or if he shot them when guys went under screens, rather than just taking them when there's two seconds on the clock and he has to.
YEAR --- MADE/ Attempts / 3 pt% made/ OVER ALL FG%
2001-02-- 61 189 32.3% 41.9%
2002-03-- 82 243 33.7% 46.4%
2003-04-- 62 199 31.2% 44.7%
2004-05-- 43 156 27.6% 48.2%
2005-06-- 11 36 30.6% 54.8%
2006-07-- 15 38 39.5% 52.0%
2007-08-- 17 66 25.8% 49.4%
2008-09-- 19 65 29.2% 50.6%
2009-10-- 10 34 29.4% 48.7%
2010-11 15 41 36.6% 52.7%
Asking TP to take more dont make alot of sense to me. We already have alot of 3 point shooters. Bonner, Hill, Manu, Neal and Jefferson. This is more then any other team in the league. Some teams only have one or 2 people who can shoot the 3 well. Were blessed with 5.
To me , this chart shows a direct correlation between TP taking less 3 point attempts and his overall FG% shooting up. His volume shooting of 3s is no better then 33.7% in the 3 years he attempted over 150 shots, so why would be want him to try more?
Im sure either the coaching staff or TP recognized he could be a better player taking less 3 pts attempts. It looks like after the 2004/05 season is when he decided to take less 3 point shots. Since then his worse over all FG% is 48.7% which is great!!.
I think POP and TP know what there are doing in this case. TP will never be a volume 3 point shooter again. Take a look at the facts.
I think he uses pretty good judgement when taking 3 pointers. If he is feeling it, he will. If not, well there are better shooters that he can pass to and it will have a better chance of going in.
But the thing is Tony was originally programmed to take more 3 points shots he was working his 3's with Chip.
But it was 3 years ago...
what happened? You'll never get better unless you take more shots at games...
I don't understand Tony has the touch to make baskets, he can be excellent at jumpshots,he's got the bases.
Remember Manu first he came in the league was a poor 3 point shooter now he's one of the best.and Tony compared to manu wasn' that bad .
So yes he should take more 3's if he's open.
nahhh
dealy accurate jumpshooter should never be used to describe parker
Thats not Bonner's game though, he can do itt occasionally to keep the defense honest...but noone should be demanding that he do it more often bc he's shooting 50% from inside the 3 pt line. Same with Tony, shooting 3s is not his game...his jumpshot is trash, he doesnt need to be shooting 3s anymore than he already is.
if he's making them, i see no reason why he shouldn't. and, btw, if he's making them, it doesn't mean that he now has to revolve his game around that.
say he take two threes a game and hits 39% of them (.8/2), do you know how many other scoring opportunities this would create for him and others? people would have to get in his face on D, so he'd have just as many 2 point opportunites potentially if not more than he usually does because of that (look at how many lanes Bonner gets because he has a great stroke.)
taking more three pointers doesn't mean he has to change his game, all it means is he can use it as a threat to enhance is already great inside game and ability to create for others.
that's ridiculous. If Jkidd had developed that shot earlier in his career he would have been more unbelievable than he was in his prime.
i always thought that the next step in TP's game was the 3-point shot. There is not a guard in the league that wouldn't benefit from having a good 3-point stroke.
The French talking about unguardable
nobody cares if Tony becomes unguardable, what is winning us games is when Tony penetrates and penetrates. What matters is him going by old ass Derek Fisher and Jason Kidd. And he can. He can.
Besides, this is not the 08 spurs where defenses need to concentrate on Parker to stop us. We got too many weapons. Team play and health is whats gonna get us past the Lakers/Mavs.
Harder to guard if you prefer...
I wasn't talking about Tony becoming our lone go to guy or something,
I meant that penetrating takes a lot of energy and at some point (he signed an extention recently), he won't have the same energy (ie Manu today compard to a few years ago)
+ The goal for every players whould be to become better ones, no?
Some pretty good posts about TP’s 3shot.
My answer is YES, he should - but in the offseason, not now. We have a lot of new players on our roster this year, as well as a few injuries causing blips in our chemistry. Tony is a Spur veteran, and he needs to be one of the constants on our team. The last thing we need is to draw up new plays for him and turn him into another project player so to speak. He’s good where he is – running pick and rolls, getting everyone else involved (esp players whos ONLY game is the 3) .
With that being said, I liked what Mingus stated. It’s not like he’d retool his entire game. If TP took 1.6 or 2.4 threes per game instead of 0.8, and could hit them at the % he is now (see OFFSEASON before you rage on me. I whole-heartedly agree that TP cannot shoot that % this year), he would be DEADLY for the Spurs.
Pop has made adding the corner 3 a goal for Tony:
http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/110116_parker.html
Parker adding a 3-point shot doesn't mean it's going to affect his interior game, he's not the type of player that would fall in love with the outside shot, IMO..as DPG said, Parker is the only Spurs player that consistently penetrates, so his interior points will still be desperately needed..
Parker working on his 3-point shot is essential though, and he has done it..he doesn't have to become a volume 3-point shooter, obviously, but the fact that he can now punish the defense for leaving him open from outside, AND become a better off-ball player, is clearly going to help the Spurs in the long run, probably as early as this year's playoffs..
parker needs to work on that 3 pt shot even if he won't be using it much. whenever ginobili handles the ball, parker just camps the 3 pt line so he'll have to be ready to make that shot when the pass comes. otherwise, he's pretty much useless on the floor when ginobili is handling the ball.
+1.
Anyone know his percentage from the corner?
And penetrations become more difficult for Manu, becauseone more man who can help without much risk.
This is a 44-8 team, anything to do with 3 point shooting can't help this team, there are other areas that need to be paid attention to... and it's not outside shooting.
some of these replies just make me go *facepalm*
This is definitely one of my worries. Live by the 3, die by the 3. That's just the fate of any perimeter team in the playoffs...as Spurs fans we should know this lesson well since we are used to facing teams like Dallas and Phoenix in the playoffs, and they usually rely on perimeter play. It's hard to stay hot for so long..but damn did PHX stay hot during the Spurs series last year
The good thing is that Tony, Manu, and sometimes Hill, when he wants, can all slash into the lane and create. In the playoffs, there's no doubt Manu and Tony are gonna be all up in that lane's ass. We're just gonna have to keep hitting 3s for it to be the most effective. But the Spurs are leading the league relatively easily due to their perimeter shooting...it's a great sign that Manu isn't completely exhausting his body slashing as much during this regular season. I think he realizes he's not playing the most effective way, but it's a trade off for the largest goal: a championship.
As long as our main dudes stay healthy the rest of the season, I like our chances.
I am not too worry about that. We have enough weapons to win game without making so many 3s.
I just checked our record split by 3p%
Under 25%: 1-1
25-30%: 5-2
30-35%: 7-1
35-40%: 8-2
40-45%:7-2
over 45%: 16-0
While making 3s helps (16-0) it does not look like we desperately need it.
Phoenix last year:
Under 25%: 1-3
25-30%: 2-1
30-35%: 4-6
35-40%: 6-3
40-45%: 3-5
over 45%: 13-3
So we are 28-8 when shooting under 45% and 16-0 when above. Phoenix was 16-18 and 13-3. (note we have very similar distribution of shooting %)
As of now Spurs are an elite team that become unstoppable when making its 3s. The Suns was an average team that could be very dangerous when on fire.
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