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    Wilson Chandler is a free agent after this season anyway. He wasn't getting re-signed by the Knicks with their eyes on upgrading PG in a few years. Gallinari is the key guy that made the deal work. Felton has had a good year certainly doesn't seem irreplaceable, especially since the Knicks would rather target CP3 or Deron in a coupld seasons. I know Mozgov had a couple of good games recently and the Knicks didn't really want to give him up, but chances are, he's not going to that great anyway. If he does become a really good player, then the deal will look worse for the Knicks. But right now, it looks more like Melo for Gallinari and a couple of picks. Knicks gave up more than they wanted and more than what most people expected, but I still think they did well to get Melo if they really thought the Nets had a chance to get Melo and get him to sign an extension.

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    We're getting a crazy-motivated (and happy) Melo, a rejuvenated STAT (he's gotta be loving this), a cagey vet at PG, and other pieces and we're playing in the East. We ain't a le-contending team but we'll sure as be fun to watch imo
    New York is far from contending for a le. They would have been better off without this trade IMHO.

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    We will see how Melo and Amare fit. We have seen Amare with another superstar (Nash), but not another superstar, iso scorer. The spacing will be interesting.

    Denver did not get anyone with superstar upside, but they got very good, already somewhat proven young talent.

    Most people go for guys like Favors, which will probably end up just being ok, but I think it is much smarter in the NBA to go for what is known, especially when they are young and have shown improvement.

    Upside is usually overrated and there is very rarely a good enough upside to justify passing on quality, although unspectacular talent like Gallo/Wilson/Felton.

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    Why would the Knicks not sign Chandler? At worse, they could have done a sign and trade.

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    I'd even say that Denver will be the better team with this new roster then New York.

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    The Nets did a good job of getting in the Knicks' head to the point of them thinking they would lose Melo in FA. Boy did they make em' pay

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    Denver got what they could, I really wouldn't be happy with this if I
    was a Denver fan. Nothing compared to the Nets package


    I'm sure Denver preferred the Nets' package. But, Anthony declining to sign the extension with the Nets was ultimately the deal-breaker.

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    Knicks definitely have better top talent (Amare and Melo are both top 15 players and Denver has none.)

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    One thing still not clear: Did Donnie Walsh's self-respect end up in Denver or Minnesota? #dolanyoujerk 2 minutes ago via web

    http://twitter.com/ekoreen/statuses/39891158096281600





    Donnie Walsh ally says of steep price paid for Melo: "This is all Dolan. All Isiah. All (Worldwide) Wes and Leon Rose..."

    http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

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    Knicks have set themselves up to be a perennial ECF/ECSF exit team for a 4-5 year window, so I think it's a decent deal on their end, they got Anthony, which was obviously the primary objective..it's a lot better than being a ty team, year after year..they will desperately need solid defenders at all 3 of the other positions, which will be difficult to find..

    They still need a legit big next to Stoudemire, he's in foul trouble in virtually every game..

    The Nuggets got a great deal, considering Anthony was going to leave..the Knicks felt the pressure from the Nets, Dolan pressured the Knicks' front office to get a deal done..the Nuggets front office played it excellently..the Nuggets will still compete for the playoffs..

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    We will see how Melo and Amare fit. We have seen Amare with another superstar (Nash), but not another superstar, iso scorer. The spacing will be interesting.

    Denver did not get anyone with superstar upside, but they got very good, already somewhat proven young talent.

    Most people go for guys like Favors, which will probably end up just being ok, but I think it is much smarter in the NBA to go for what is known, especially when they are young and have shown improvement.

    Upside is usually overrated and there is very rarely a good enough upside to justify passing on quality, although unspectacular talent like Gallo/Wilson/Felton.
    tbh CB will play a big part in melding Melo and Stat's games together. To everyone calling this trade a Denver win, they obviously haven't watch the NBA over the last 20, 30, 40, ...forever. This is a star-driven league, nyukkas

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    Wow, stiff price to pay for melo.

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    Nuggets coach George Karl has pushed team officials to make the deal with the Knicks over a straight trade with the Nets because it would better position the Nuggets to contend for the playoffs this season, a source with knowledge of Denver’s plan said.

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    Nuggets might have gotten rid of Melo, but he was the closest thing to a superstar that they had. Now they have to hope Gallo can be that or they won't really have much of a future to build on. You still need superstars to build around to win in this league.

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    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Donnie Walsh ally says of steep price paid for Melo: "This is all Dolan. All Isiah. All (Worldwide) Wes and Leon Rose..."

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    Yeah, I agree. New York will now be in the discussion year in and year out and will be a top 5 team in the East for a long time to come that's for sure so I guess they accomplished what they wanted by getting Melo. Just thinking about all the talent they already had there and the possibility of Melo signing on as a FA next season without them having to lose anything just sticks in my mind. They could have really been a great team if they could have kept that talent and added melo, not just a good team.

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    Wilson Chandler is a free agent after this season anyway. He wasn't getting re-signed. Gallinari is the guy that made the deal work. Felton has had a good year certainly doesn't seem replaceable, especially since the Knicks would rather target CP3 or Deron in a coupld seasons. I know Mozgov had a couple of good games recently and the Knicks didn't really want to give him up, but chances are, he's not going to that great anyway. If he does become a really good player, then the deal will look worse for the Knicks. But right now, it looks more like Melo for Gallinari and a couple of picks. Knicks gave up more than they wanted and more than what most people expected, but I still think they did well to get Melo if they really thought the Nets had a chance to get Melo and get him to sign an extension.
    The Chauncey for Felton part can work for the Knicks in the long run. They'll want to add Paul or Williams in 2012, but it's extremely unlikely that they'll ever have enough cap space to sign one of them as a FA with Amare and Melo on the books. So, they need a huge expiring contract to combine with picks and cheap young players to complete a trade for one of the superstar PGs.

    Next year at this time Chauncey will be a critical part of the trade that brings Paul or Williams to NY.

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    How does Golden State figure in this with the picks?

    What does GS receive?

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    Melo didn't want to wait
    Of course he didn't want to wait. He wants the cash.

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    How does Golden State figure in this with the picks?

    What does GS receive?
    The lube

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    Nuggets might have gotten rid of Melo, but he was the closest thing to a superstar that they had. Now they have to hope Gallo can be that or they won't really have much of a future to build on. You still need superstars to build around to win in this league.



    It doesn't help when your superstar no longer wants to play for your team.

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    If Melo gets injured I'm going to stick a revolver in my mouth

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    I think Melo will thrive in D'antoni's system...at least the knicks will be exciting to watch...maybe even win a first round series...

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    Wow New York is gonna have a horrible defense. Denver can still make the playoffs with the team they have now.

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