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    Spurfan actually comes in this thread and shows that they actually believe the Spurs have 4 rings in spite of the league rigging it against them
    Did you ing read, or not?


    I didn't say it rigged it against them. How much can you rig when they're half-asleepingly pounding the Cavs 4-0 in the finals? Spurs breezed through the west and nothing from the east was going to do on in 07.


    I said that the league pushes its agenda...it is not a league run purely without bias.


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    Abe Lincoln, NlGGA Kyle Orton's Avatar
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    Does David Stern being a Jew make it so you think he rigs the NBA?

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    It is obviously rigged whenever the Spurs don't win.

    Wake up!

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    That's how Orlando and San Antonio each got two of the best big men of the modern era.

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    I watched the video by the OP twice and saw no signs of rigging. Even the comments embedded into the video made no sense to me. Naturally, the Gasol trade came up again, let me address this post:

    Here's another one...

    Well, if Stern is not Jerry West...then Stern was still the in' boss...why couldn't HE stepped in and investigated this trade...why couldn't HE veto this trade and made the lakers give up Bynum or odom or someone other than Kwame in brown????

    Stern let this happen on his watch...this is crooked enough to taint the league...but everyone just accepts it..and like sheep...just keep supporting this bull .
    Ok, first off, the complaints about this trade were:

    1) West had something to do with it.
    2) It changed the power balance in the west.
    3) Memphis could have done better elsewhere
    4) Memphis made the deal fast without looking elswhere.
    5) The Lakers gave up nothing, ie; Kwame Brown.
    6) Stern shuld have investigated the trade.

    Well, this has all been explained, many times, let me summarize.

    1) West was already gone from Memphis at the time of the trade. He did say he told the Lakers Pau was available, but this was common knowledge, Pau had been on the block for a full year and no team had made a deal yet.
    2) Yes it did. But notice the hypocrisy. What exactly did the Shaq trade of 2004 do? It changed the power balance in the west. No one in the west complained then, and they shouldn't. The Lakers sank and the Spurs, Mavs, and Suns had free reign. Some argue the Lakers sacrificed at least 2 more les. Who knows? All speculation. What the Lakers did was use the pieces from the initial Shaq trade to land Gasol. Caron Butler was traded in 2005 for Kwame Brown. Lakers were able to draft Bynum only because they fell to the lottery. If Shaq stays, not only do the Lakers not draft Bynum, they don't want him. The Lakers sacrificed a few years to extend Kobe's le window.
    3) Yes, Memphis could have done better elsewhere. They could have sent Pau to the Bulls, but would have been forced to accept Luol Deng, who was NOT an expiring contract. Memphis wanted out from under Pau's salary and the equivelent it brought for 2008-09 and beyond. In short, Memphis would only deal Pau for expiring contracts.
    4) Not true, as mentioned, Pau had been on the block for a long time. The other deals they rejected required them to take on long term contracts.
    5) Key point, Kwame Brown had an expiring contract and it was common knowledge he would be moved, from the beginning of the 2007-08 season. It just took longer. Odom would have worked salary wise, but once again, he was not expiring. How can the Lakers be forced to trade a certain player to compensate for Gasol anyway? (Andrew Bynum, perhaps). The rules don't call for that. Suppose the commisioner said Ginobili or Parker must be included in a deal for Richard Jefferson? Suppose the commisioner said 3 superstars are not allowed on one team? Miami for one would have been blocked from signing LeBron, as he was the last to agree. The argument here is sour grapes, and that is all it is.
    6) Why wasn't there a call to investigate the Shaq trade of 2004 then? Why not every single trade? More sour grapes, get over it.

    In summary, people forget the Shaq trade. That's what changed the balance in the west. Lakers played the pieces smartly after that and got back in contention.
    Last edited by Daddy_Of_All_Trolls; 03-14-2011 at 03:46 PM.

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    Does David Stern being a Jew make it so you think he rigs the NBA?
    You are comical

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