Key point is Pistons have yet to beat Spurs when Duncan plays more than 5 minutes!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...?series=detsas
Other than the always anti-Spur-because-they-beat-my-ass-in-1999 Greg Anthony, most objective analyst picked the Spurs.
I agree that the sportscast crew like the Pistons, undoubtedly because most of them are out on the east coast, but most of them also picked the Spurs to win (as did Vegas).
The Pistons are playing much worse than I expected them to, but they are still the defending champs and deserve they respect they receive.
I don't agree that the best team always wins the series. San Antonio had some bad luck and .04 deal. That basket shouldn't have counted so it would've gone 7 which is in San Antonio. The series would be up for grabs.
Overrated?? They are the 2004 Champs and 05 E conf Champs. Do you actually think there is that much luck involved in the NBA to get them that far without skill? Pistons beat the Lakers last year, a task the Spurs couldn't get done.. I'll be the first to say that as a fan of the Pistons, nobody knows what the they are doing. They look like a 3rd rate high school team. If the gms were close, I'd be happy to turn over the le. But they're not. I'm lucky my TV weighs 500 lbs becaus it would have been through the window last night if it didn't.. My credit goes to S/A..
If Detroit wins 2 games in this series I won't call them overrated but I have a feeling that Detroit will be no problem for San Antonio.
Shouldn't have counted? The Spurs and the Lakers have a legitimate discussion here. Don't hate because your team sucks. Prove to me the shot didn't count and maybe I'll believe you, otherwise the shot was proven to be good. Lmao @ the Dallas hater. Dallas, what have you guys won lately?
I looked at the tape in slow motion and saw the clock wasn't moving when Fisher caught the ball. That is the only way you can tell. I would say between .02 to .03 seconds were not counted.
Bottom line, there is no guarantee the 2004 Spurs could have beaten Detroit last year. These 2005 Spurs are deeper than last years Spurs (Rasho, our starting center last year, is now on the bench!), and Manu & Tony have improved tremendously.
I don't think Detroit is overrated... I think the Spurs are underrated!
The pistons were down 3-2 and a hurt jason Kidd stopped NJ's chances last year.
The pistons were down 3-2 and a hurt Shaquille stopped Miami's chances this year.
Luck of the injuries, much like the wolves had the misfortune's of getting injured.
.4 is a mute point for laker fans because in a perfect world cassell would've outed you like a biker gang to a Eye for the Straight Guy cast member.
Injuries this year are a moot point in this years playoffs. Each team the Spurs and Pistons played except for the 1st round had injuries to major players.(Shaq, Wade, Radmanovic, Lewis, J.Johnson)
Likewise, the Pistons and Spurs have had injuries to major players.
(Duncan's ankles, Rip's leg, Ben's jaw after getting nailed by Shaq's elbow...ok, that was not an injury, but you can tell it hurt)
That is really the only reason minnesota didn't win it last year. Detroit was good, but Minnesota could have given them a good run for their money. Cassell unfortunately got injured. He was the unspoken MVP all year and through the playoffs. 2 40 point games from a 34 year old guard? Thats good. They would have beaten the Lakers, but hey injuries happen. He got injured again this year and that is probably why the Twolves sucked.
Health is part of the game. The Playoffs are 2 months long... there are bound to be health issues.
No NBA Champion in recent memory has ever won a Championship without playing some injury-affected teams along the way... or teams that made it past injury-affected teams.
If the Queen had balls she would be the King. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Injuries are part of the game. There are no guarantees if a player comes back he would have been the difference. We didn't have Malone but I'm not using that as an excuse. No excuses, we got a good ol' fashioned ass whoopin.
Yes it was, if you base it on win margin. If the pace w/Detroit holds up, the Spurs toughest opponent will have been the Suns. The margin of victory in the 4 wins was a mear 7pts per game. The next closest was Seattle at 12+.
Most of the games against the Suns came down to the last 5min or so when SA stepped it up a notch and hit the big shots, while the Suns missed.
Detroit would be lucky to get out of the first round in the west.
yeah the suns were SO good, the Sonics only won 100% more games vs the spurs these playoffs
The better team will ALWAYS win in a seven game series.
that should be amended...the team that is playing better will always win the series. Otherwise if the better team always won...there would be no upsets.
90-95% of the time that is correct but I can think of 2 series that should've gone to the other team. Kings vs. Laker 2002 and Spurs vs. Lakers 2004. Ironically the Lakers get all the luck.
Last edited by mavsfan1000; 06-13-2005 at 03:26 PM.
Yeah it's all luck. The Mavericks don't have any luck. They just suck. They have a overhyped 7'1" jumpshooting big man that is soft as cookie dough and doesn't play defense. Mavs have a billionaire owner who looks like a serial rapist who has all the money in the world yet can't buy himself a championship. Don't even start with the Lakers since you guys haven't done anything in ages. You can't even compare with the Lakers so maybe you should stick to maybe arguing with Phoenix fans or Sonics fans.
Oh by the way how was the real rapist doing. Mr Kobe Bryant who bribed his way out of jail and sent Shaq packing.
Last edited by mavsfan1000; 06-13-2005 at 03:41 PM.
There was more than .4 sec on the clock. When TD put in his miracle shot, the timer didn't stop on time. That really should have been around .7 seconds as it is. Anyways, the past is in the past. Get over it, I almost am
As to the Pistons being over-rated, how can the defending champs, two time EC champs, and a team who now has a chance to repeat their le be over-rated? Sure Pistons looked like crap the first 2 games, but I don't expect that trend to continue. They are a solid team who is looking bad right now because the Spurs are beating them at their own game and doing a better job at it. Their problem is their bench--which they have none. Their starting 5 is one of the best starting 5 in the NBA. Name me 3 other teams (Aside from Spurs) who have a better starting 5 than the Pistons? Only the Suns come to mind, however, they don't play defense so maybe they shouldn't count...
Thank God for excuses because almost everyone has a legitimate claim to the le with excuses.
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