If Jason Terry is with Dallas next season, I am switching back to the Knicks

[Ghazi]

Iguodala > Johnson is all I know

[monosylab1k]

JJ gives Dallas a much better shot at contending

you do realize Joe Johnson is shooting the ball almost as craptacular as Roddy, right? Except he gets more shots because he gets paid more than LeBron James.

[Kyle Orton]

Iguodala > Johnson is all I know

The stats say differently. Iggy is just as much of a volume chucker as JJ, the difference is JJ at least has a good J and has to create everything for himself. As _JaG said, give JJ a 1st option to play off, he becomes a much more efficient and better player.

[Greg Oden]

I remember endorsing a Monta Ellis deal too, only for the vast majority of Mavs fans here whining about how he would hog the ball and take away all the 18 foot fadeaways over guys 6 inches shorter than him from Dirk.

Ellis would be a great in fit, not to mention he's better than every guard on the team combined.

[Booharv]

Iguodala and Brand make Dallas a contender but Joe Johnson doesn't

Iguodala is one of the best if not the best perimeter defenders in the league. Probably either him or Tony Allen at this point, plus Iguodala is a much better passer and rebounder than Johnson.

[monosylab1k]

I guess you guys are right about Joe Johnson fitting in perfectly with Dallas. He's great at taking jumpers and never attacking the basket, that IS a perfect fit.

[jag]

How is it even up for ing debate that Iggy/Brand is a far better deal for Dallas than Joe Johnson?

Because in this hypothetical situation you're giving up Roddy for JJ straight up (with some picks). Youre arguing that JJ for Roddy isnt a good deal. Iggy/Brand is another discussion all together.

[Sigz]

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[Findog]

In the 2 years between now and then, JJ gives Dallas a much better shot at contending than Roddy's studly 8.8 PPG on 42.5% shooting.

Well I was never a Roddy sucker that hyped him up as a legit #2 option.

[Kyle Orton]

you do realize Joe Johnson is shooting the ball almost as craptacular as Roddy, right? Except he gets more shots because he gets paid more than LeBron James.

Roddy would be shooting probably 28% if he was the #1 option on a team with no other ball handlers/creators.

[Ghazi]

o YE of little faith!

we goin to the ship!

[Kyle Orton]

I guess you guys are right about Joe Johnson fitting in perfectly with Dallas. He's great at taking jumpers and never attacking the basket, that IS a perfect fit.

No, you're right. 8.8 point ecstasy shouldn't be traded for Joe Johnson.

[jag]

you do realize Joe Johnson is shooting the ball almost as craptacular as Roddy, right? Except he gets more shots because he gets paid more than LeBron James.

You realize he's the number one option facing a second defender running at him all game long, right?

[Kyle Orton]

You realize he's the number one option facing a second defender running at him all game long, right?

I don't think so. For some reason Mavfan in this thread believes he's shooting 44% by playing off better players and getting 1 on 1 isos whenever he wants like Roddy gets.

[monosylab1k]

The stats say differently.

no they don't.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2386/andre-iguodala
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1007/joe-johnson

Iggy is outplaying JJ in every facet of the game. He's better from behind the 3, and even tho he shoots worse from the line, he also gets there more often. Better rebounding, assists, steals, and blocks as well.

The only stat that says "differently" is the paychecks. One guys is paid more than LeBron James and therefore gets to jack it up at will. The other "chucker" puts it up a mind boggling 11 times a game

[monosylab1k]

You realize he's the number one option facing a second defender running at him all game long, right?

Right, because the defense has every reason to ignore Jamal Crawford, Josh Smith, Al Horford, etc, and just use all their energy to shut down the GOAT.

[Ghazi]

was Johnson ever even on the table?

Why are we having this conversation?

Can't we enjoy our beloved 56-25 2nd place Mavericks?

[Kyle Orton]

Points per game kinda says differently. 14 PPG at 44% shooting isn't anything close to a "2nd option".

[monosylab1k]

No, you're right. 8.8 point ecstasy shouldn't be traded for Joe Johnson.

I've already stated I would have made that trade. I'm just pointing out that I'm not overly pissed about it because Joe Johnson would have been like the 5th best option they had at the time.

[Booharv]

Iguodala



Johnson

[jag]

Right, because the defense has every reason to ignore Jamal Crawford, Josh Smith, Al Horford, etc, and just use all their energy to shut down the GOAT.

As someone who gets Hawks games locally and attends Hawks games, Joe Johnson is by far the number one option and sees weekside double teams quite regularly. Do you honestly think Josh Smith is creating 16.7 ppg of offense on his own?

[monosylab1k]

Points per game kinda says differently.

oh yeah that's right. Looks like Amare > Dwight Howard. Points per game say so.

[Kyle Orton]

You'd have to be re ed to think JJ doesn't see more attention from defenses than Iggy. Joe Johnson plays a bigger role on a better team.

[Kyle Orton]

I've already stated I would have made that trade.

OK then. Thanks for playing. lol Beaubois averaging 14 PPG.

[Greg Oden]

As someone who gets Hawks games locally and attends Hawks games, Joe Johnson is by far the number one option and sees weekside double teams quite regularly. Do you honestly think Josh Smith is creating 16.7 ppg of offense on his own?

well that sucks.