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You tried to compare people cheering the death of a mass murdering terrorist with people cheering the death of innocent Americans.
You're an idiot.
Lol. You might be right but u don't know the real situation. What u do is read and read and pieced it together. SMH....
You tried to compare people cheering the death of a mass murdering terrorist with people cheering the death of innocent Americans.
You're an idiot.
And your simple minded if you can't see the correlation. Both sides are cheering death
Statements like that make you look dumb.
Death of a mass murderer =/= death of thousands of innocents
Trying to say they're the same thing is being simple minded.
classy. like the spurs.An article on NESN criticized Mendenhall's tweets[33] while another article on Sporting News noted how his comments could, "cause a public relations nightmare for what's considered to be one of the league's classiest franchises."[
both have rapists.
I wonder what Mendenhall would have preferred. Does he think that the Seals should have used bean bags, tasers or mace, even though the enemies were using live ammunition?
I applaud the fact that bin Laden's been stopped, but at the same type I regret his death, for a variety of reasons.
I'm afraid a lot of people will see this as curing a disease when in reality it's just covering the most visible symptom. I don't see a reason to really celebrate.
And many of the problems in the middle east were pretty much caused by European's drawing arbitrary borders when the relinquished control a long time ago. Followed by decades of US picking kings and rulers, and arming one group or another. What's been done to the Middle East by all the Western Powers is a pretty black stain.
It's like we bred them to be fighters and then get upset when they do what we trained them to do.
The whole situation is sick and twisted on both sides.
So you would rather Bin Laden still be alive? For what purpose?
We never trained anyone on how to fly commercial planes in order to make suicide runs into tall buildings.It's like we bred them to be fighters and then get upset when they do what we trained them to do.
The whole situation is sick and twisted on both sides.
I absolutey see a reason for people to celebrate the death of the one that actually pushed such training.
Definitely. His capture/death is somewhat bittersweet. It doesn't end the war, or reverse what we have done, or justify some of the actions we have taken.
I'm very skeptical of how much change we can affect in a country. Ultimately, itsup to the people to decide their way.
Let's face it, it's not like those areas were rainbows and bubblegum before the Western Powers stepped in.
Actually, yes.
I'd rather he be alive and captured. It'd be a bigger insult to him personally, and more demoralizing to his followers. It'd allow the world to publically try him, which would probably bring about a greater sense of closure for those who lost loved ones. It would have prevented his "martyrdom" which will motivate his followers.
His death accomplishes nothing, but letting people puff out their chest at a feeling of vengeance (the same feeling that cause 9/11 anyway).
Actually, we did. Besides the fact that the pilots were trained in flying within the US, we spent a great deal teaching bin Laden guerilla tactics to use against the USSR, as well as arming him and helping him set up his own training grounds.
He's not the first, and certainly won't be the last. Like I said, he was just the most visibile symptom and his death does nothing to stop the root problem.
It's like celebrating a strong cough suppressant keeping you from coughing when you have walking pneumonia....
Bump's new troll is amazing.
Exactly.
I would say when we choose the leaders of a country (as we have on at least a couple occassions), we have a great effect on that country.
Quite true. One of the reasons the Western Powers were able to take control of the area was the large amount of tribal strife, etc, in the area. The way the Western Powers exited, then kept meddling, just didn't help matters any.
I'm not saying the problems in the ME should be laid completely at the Western Powers feet, but let's not pretend the bad blood isn't at least partially justified.
Good catch. I agree in those instances.
Sure. Heck, even if meddling in that area was justified, I wouldn't be surprised if people were resentful. (After all, accepting help can be considered shameful, and if there's one thing they take serious over there it's pride.)
meh, pure speculation on your part. I don't see it making much of a difference to his followers at this point.
they seem motivated enough while he was alive. Doubtful much changes in that regard.
That's not what I see when I google "bin laden death closure"His death accomplishes nothing, but letting people puff out their chest at a feeling of vengeance (the same feeling that cause 9/11 anyway).
.... the death of Osama bin Laden at the hands of U.S. special operations forces may help to start some healing, said Christian and Muslim religious leaders, relatives of victims, and a generation who grew in the shadow of 9/11.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-02/w...uf?_s=PM:WORLDActually, no we did not specifically train them for the specific purpose of flying a commercial jet into a building.Actually, we did. Besides the fact that the pilots were trained in flying within the US, we spent a great deal teaching bin Laden guerilla tactics to use against the USSR, as well as arming him and helping him set up his own training grounds.
teaching Bin Laden how to use guerilla tactics back in the 80s against the Soviets is not the same thing.
Imo, it's more like getting stung badly by a bee, finding the bee, squashing the bee and celebrating that you finally killed the mother er that got you.He's not the first, and certainly won't be the last. Like I said, he was just the most visibile symptom and his death does nothing to stop the root problem.
It's like celebrating a strong cough suppressant keeping you from coughing when you have walking pneumonia....
I love it when people take a tier 1 humanities class about the middle east their freshman year of college taught by an extremely bias Islamic Professor and then think they're now experts on the middle east.
It's great that bin laden is ing dead. I agree with that, but I also think it would have been more satisfying to just me personally to see him brought to trial and hung up like ing Saddam for the world to see him killed.
Especially now that they decided not to release the death photos.
Why was seeing Sadam hung satisfying? He had never done anything to America. Suppressing Islamic extremism in Iraq and keeping it a secular country (albeit through brutal methods) was good for America. He was an evil human being who deserved to die, but the collapse of Sadam's regime strengthened Islamic terrorism and hurt America.
Of course it's speculation. Anything that starts out "If this had happened instead" is speculation. You asked for my opinion and I gave it.
Well see what happens. I'm just saying there's more of a chance of large-scale retaliation for his death than his capture.
True, I shouldn't have the said the feeling of vengeance was the "only" thing accomplished. I still believe, psychologically speaking, there would be a more widespread feeling of closure if he had been captured, tried, then executed (or put behind bars for life, whatever floats your boat).
Wow, you want a specific training course? "How to fly planes into buildings 101?"
We taught bin Laden and others how to come up with alternate methods of attack. He (and others) used that training to come up with a plan to attack us and put it into action.
Sorry if you don't see a connection.
And meanwhile the hive of bees is still there waiting to sting you again and again and again...
Killing the specific bee is pointless. Getting rid of the hive would be smart.
not when the bee that stung you has a major impact on the hive's morale and strategy
Tell that to the team of Seals who's main objective was to capture. Unfortunately they were answered with a gunfight
I had a Poly-Sci class taught by a Middle Easterner when I went to school at Kent. We did a mock UN vote on recognition of Israel in the class and she stacked the vote so Israel would lose.
Except that most people expect the rest of the hive to respond with anger and try to attack you.
Also, bin Laden did not have a very large effect on strategy. al Qaeda has been decentralized for a long time, and at most bin Laden would have approved high profile ops (and probably not even that). He didn't even have a particularly large role in the planning of 9/11.
Except their mission was to kill and not capture: http://www.haaretz.com/news/internat...laden-1.359428
Well, if it happened to be the queen bee that stung you...
She must be a good teacher then... she was getting you used to political processes.I had a Poly-Sci class taught by a Middle Easterner when I went to school at Kent. We did a mock UN vote on recognition of Israel in the class and she stacked the vote so Israel would lose.
Well, if it happened to be the queen bee that stung you...
Good one!
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