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From your PDF. When was it ever an American job, Teysha?The exporting of American
jobs is a trend that must be stopped and reversed
Ok, Manny. I'm game. What does the other mean?
From your PDF. When was it ever an American job, Teysha?The exporting of American
jobs is a trend that must be stopped and reversed
I've already said what it means. One is a null value, zero. Neither a job lost nor a job gained. In order to lose a job you had to have it at one point. One is a negative.
To use an analogy, when Darrin makes money I can't sit back and say I lost that money.
Your analogy has too many actors. To an unemployed person, which is the net result of both sets Null and Negative, there is no distinction.
Ask Black and Decker.
Oh, well I suppose an unemployed person is looking at this in an objective way and not emotionally. As I posted before, the mother of a dead child who drowned probably doesn't care that the child wasn't shot in the head but it doesn't change the fact that the child was - in fact - not shot in the head.
I'm not arguing that the child isn't dead, Teysha, I'm arguing that it wasn't shot in the head.
Enough with the dead kids already. Jeeze.
The job is gone. The job doesn't exist.
Net difference to the only population that matters in this particular discussion, ie the American workforce = zippo.
So do Americans get carte blanche on claiming every tech job overseas is outsourced?
I'd much prefer to look at individual scenarios rather than issue a blanket statement.
There are certainly cases to be made in the A/V industry.
Outsourced doesn't even mean the job is in another country.
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...and-cant-leaveIn a wide-ranging interview with the India-based Economic Times, Cargill CEO David MacLennan talks about how the globe-spanning agribusiness giant managed to turn the 2008 economic crisis into a "record year of profits"—a remarkable performance, given that that year's food-price es pushed 115 million people into hunger, as the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization estimated. And then MacLennan drops this nugget on his company's poultry operations in China:
So we are building a facility in Shuzou, Nanjing, which will have 45 farms and it's a chicken facility that will process 1.2 million chicken every week. That's 60 million chicken a year. We have a hatchery, where we hatch the eggs and one-day old chicks, DOCs, get transported to the farms. The employees live on the farm. They can't leave because then you increase the risk of disease. So you grow the chicken for 44 days. The chicken goes to the plants, get processed, might be for KFC and McDonald's, might be for retail. They can count on us because they know where every one of their chicken came from. It came from us because we're fully integrated as opposed to other companies. [Emphasis added.]I should note that US meat giant Tyson, too, is rolling out fully integrated and vast chicken facilities in China. But wait, back up: like employees at Foxconn, the company that manufactures Apple products, Cargill's poultry workers will live on-site. But rather than reside amid the production of iPhones and whatnot—apparently, not the most pleasant place to call home—Cargill's workers will live amid the growth and slaughter of 1.2 million chickens per week—and all the blood, guts, and vast stores of chicken that implies.
MacLennan doesn't mention whether the live-in requirement the company imposes on its Chinese workers also applies in its poultry operations in other developing countries. But he does boast that the company runs "very big" chicken operations n Nicaragua and Costa Rica, adding that it plans to "develop fully-integrated poultry breeding, hatching, growth and processing" in other countries around the world.
I am reaching out to Cargill to hear more about this innovative chicken factory/worker-housing mashup in China. Kind of gives new meaning to the industry habit of calling its large livestock-raising facilities "confinements."
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ould-apologise“Because I believe the cause of all [this] is that I exposed Hengyang Foxconn’s illegal activities, I believe I am not guilty,” he said.
In a letter to Bezos – who is worth an estimated £137bn – Tang urged him to ensure that workers’ rights were protected. “Although the price was too high for me, I think the price I paid will all be worth it if only this situation can be brought to your attention and benefit the employees of all Amazon suppliers,” he wrote. “Finally, as your faithful admirer, as a former employee of your company’s client, as a victim, as a son, husband, father, I would like to ask the following of you. Please ask Hengyang Foxconn to face up to its own problems, apologise to me, and come forward and communicate with the local court to assist me in the appeal of my case, so that the court can finally revoke my guilty verdict.”
China Labor Watch director Li Qiang also wrote to Bezos urging him to intervene on behalf of Tang. “CLW believes that Amazon has the responsibility to call for China to free this innocent volunteer, who provided the evidence of labour violations in an Amazon supplier factory, and thank him for helping improving workers’ conditions. All he did was report violations of workers’ rights in an Amazon supplier factory. He did not commit any illegal acts.
“It is unacceptable and unfair that Tang Mingfang is serving jail time for trying to help Amazon improve the labour conditions in its supplier factory.”
He said Bezos had not responded to his letter and Amazon had not offered any support for Tang.
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