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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    You've obviously not had much experience with HOAs. They're far from worthless with rule enforcement which is why they suck so ing much.
    Honestly I have, but you are right though in the sense that it depends on the rule and the association management.

    In many cases they play middle man and refer complaints to local law enforcement.

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    My wife & I had to deal with a similar issue and our HOA was pretty damn toothless. We had to go to our HOA to complain about noisy neighbors and they just told us that without them personally witnessing the violation all they could do was write warning letters. They weren't going to send someone out at 2 in the morning to verify, so we were pretty much screwed.
    You say that as if there is no such thing as a video camera.

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    The subdivision I live in here in SA has by far the most "hands on" HOA I've experienced. My personal experience with them, and most of the neighbors I've discussed them with, is that they are very good at enforcing their own agenda only. When they send out their spies to do a random sweep of trashcans left out on trashday, the threatening letters go out that day; does anything come of it, I don't know. Once a year or so they send out the round of "fence in disrepair" notices---most of them get fixed right away, but there are some ratty fences that I know haven't been touched in YEARS and stay that way.

    I have a roughly 3x3 area of persistently dead grass on the driveway side of my house; I suspect there is cement or concrete dumped underneath. About 6 yrs ago I got a threatening letter about it in January. I called my yard guy and told him to do whatever he needed to fix it, money was no object as I wanted these clowns off my back. He literally laughed in my face and said "It's winter---nothing will grow, tell them to eff off". So I took no action, did absolutely nothing about it, and have never heard anything to this day and the grass looks exactly the same!

    But when my neighbor, and good friend, was trying to deal with a serious situation that violated the bylaws, it took 2 weeks of trying before they even returned a call, and 2 certified letters, for them to say "we'll look into it"; then 6 months later they informed her she needed to get an attorney because they couldn't do anything. TOOTHLESS. They only care to collect dues and maintain entrance landscaping

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    Oh and I totally agree that you're not only a pussy but an asshole if you go straight to the cops and don't talk to them first. If I was playing basketball at 2am (and when I was a teen this wasn't rare) I would stop if you were my neighbor and you said it was bothering you. If you sent over the cops, I would stop too, but there would be ill will.

    They might just not know its bothering you. Give them a chance to be a good neighbor by being a good neighbor.
    The drawback to that is if they ignore you and do it anyways, they know exactly who it was that called the cops, if they force you to go that route.

    I agree and think one should do talk to them first anyways, but to each his / her own.

    The police may take a while to respond, but they will eventually, so best to call right when it first happens.

    If it is something that is a pattern, simply go to your local police precinct and talk to the shift sergeant during the day. Be calm reasonable, and polite. Ask for a simple drive by once per night-time shift, if any squad cars are available.

    If it is 2am, who knows, maybe the police in that part of town are just bored.

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    The subdivision I live in here in SA has by far the most "hands on" HOA I've experienced. My personal experience with them, and most of the neighbors I've discussed them with, is that they are very good at enforcing their own agenda only. When they send out their spies to do a random sweep of trashcans left out on trashday, the threatening letters go out that day; does anything come of it, I don't know. Once a year or so they send out the round of "fence in disrepair" notices---most of them get fixed right away, but there are some ratty fences that I know haven't been touched in YEARS and stay that way.

    I have a roughly 3x3 area of persistently dead grass on the driveway side of my house; I suspect there is cement or concrete dumped underneath. About 6 yrs ago I got a threatening letter about it in January. I called my yard guy and told him to do whatever he needed to fix it, money was no object as I wanted these clowns off my back. He literally laughed in my face and said "It's winter---nothing will grow, tell them to eff off". So I took no action, did absolutely nothing about it, and have never heard anything to this day and the grass looks exactly the same!

    But when my neighbor, and good friend, was trying to deal with a serious situation that violated the bylaws, it took 2 weeks of trying before they even returned a call, and 2 certified letters, for them to say "we'll look into it"; then 6 months later they informed her she needed to get an attorney because they couldn't do anything. TOOTHLESS. They only care to collect dues and maintain entrance landscaping
    They are toothless until they ing sell your house for a $977 fee shortfall.
    http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Frisc...112609834.html

    No trial, no nuthin'. BAM, you lost your house and one of the HOA cronies swooped in and bought it for nuthin'. Today's vocabulary word is "non-judicial foreclosure".


    The house, valued at more than $300,000, sold at Denton County's foreclosure auction for $3,201. It was resold more than a year later for $135,000.
    Of course the wads who did that to the Iraq war veteran got death threats, and rightfully so.

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    There was a Bill passed this session, RandomGuy that stops HOAs from foreclosing on military homes that don't pay their dues.

    http://www.housingwire.com/2011/03/1...sses-committee

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    are they niglets?

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Of course the wads who did that to the Iraq war veteran got death threats, and rightfully so.
    That's the dude with the wife that didn't open her mail for 6 months, right?

    IIRC, the house was a gift from her parents and she owned it free and clear.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    My personal experience with them, and most of the neighbors I've discussed them with, is that they are very good at enforcing their own agenda only.
    This +100

    Once a year or so they send out the round of "fence in disrepair" notices---most of them get fixed right away, but there are some ratty fences that I know haven't been touched in YEARS and stay that way.
    That's another city ordinance example that they likely would tell the complainant to just call the city.

    ....when they themselves could just break off a 2-3 minute call as well.

    But when my neighbor, and good friend, was trying to deal with a serious situation that violated the bylaws, it took 2 weeks of trying before they even returned a call, and 2 certified letters, for them to say "we'll look into it"; then 6 months later they informed her she needed to get an attorney because they couldn't do anything. TOOTHLESS. They only care to collect dues and maintain entrance landscaping
    I wish that was a surprise.

    ing management companies.

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    if you were badass youd go over there and school the out of them...then tell them never to play again.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Oh and I totally agree that you're not only a pussy but an asshole if you go straight to the cops and don't talk to them first. If I was playing basketball at 2am (and when I was a teen this wasn't rare) I would stop if you were my neighbor and you said it was bothering you. If you sent over the cops, I would stop too, but there would be ill will.

    They might just not know its bothering you. Give them a chance to be a good neighbor by being a good neighbor.
    It's a shame that all neighbors aren't as nice as you.

    When I was a student, I once had a neighbor that had lots of garage band sessions until late into the next morning. I went over and talked to them and they blew me off.

    I called the cops the next time, and the next time and the next time until they finally stopped.

    Then I found 4 slashed tires on my car.

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    play them for it

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    I think what's being overlooked here is that you're sleeping with your brother?

    Yeah man we're in our 20s but living in the same room is the . You can set up tower defense games with your beds and pillows and throw action figures and markers at each other.


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    somehwere out there there are lil homies that could've grown up to be the next MJ or Kobe but didn't bc of es like u that complained when they were working on there game

    mind ur own fkn business or buy earplugs
    Working on their game by drinking and smoking?

    are they niglets?
    They are white which also likely means they won't be the next MJ or Kobe. Maybe if they were German they could be like Dirk.

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    If they are keeping the neighbors from sleeping, they are most definitely harming them.

    After 10:30pm, the right to a good nights sleep trumps some punk ass kids' right to play basketball.



    http://www.amlegal.com/austin_nxt/gateway.dll/Texas/austin/ le9prohibitedactivities?fn=altmain-nf.htm$f=templates$3.0

    Most cities have similar ordinances.
    Great, thx for info.

    It's a shame that all neighbors aren't as nice as you.

    When I was a student, I once had a neighbor that had lots of garage band sessions until late into the next morning. I went over and talked to them and they blew me off.

    I called the cops the next time, and the next time and the next time until they finally stopped.

    Then I found 4 slashed tires on my car.
    This is exactly my fear and why I haven't approached the neighbor yet. This particular neighbor seems to be friends with another neighbor of mine with their kid also joining in. So the potential to piss off two neighbors with kids is there. They have already damaged some of our plants on our property by walking through them when their ball comes over to our yard. I don't want things to escalate, but eventually something has to be said or else they will keep doing it. This is why I wanted some advice.

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    you live in a ty neighborhood
    Average home on my street is valued at about 200K. Not ty in Austin. Problem is in recent years home owners have moved out and chose to rent their homes. So now we're surrounded by renters.

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    I hate my HOA. Last March (2010) our ac went out, so we installed screen doors in the front and back of the place trying to get a breeze to come through. This past January (2011) we got a notice that we had to apply for a permit for "unauthorized improvements to our home". So we did it, just to humor them, but added a note with the application that the door had been there for 10 months. In March we got another notice: "Your home improvement has been approved, but you must paint it to match the trim on your house." This time we called them and asked what the they were talking about, since the screen door does in fact match the garage door (white). Apparently by "trim" they meant the kelly-green false shutters on the upstairs windows.

    We're just going to take the damn thing down, sell the house and move to the middle of nowhere.

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    Chances are they're going to know who made the complaint whether you talk to them first or not. You should give your neighbors the benefit of the doubt that they're not complete assholes who are going to slash your tires before you call the cops on them.

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    I am that guy RandomGuy's Avatar
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    Great, thx for info.

    This is exactly my fear and why I haven't approached the neighbor yet. This particular neighbor seems to be friends with another neighbor of mine with their kid also joining in. So the potential to piss off two neighbors with kids is there. They have already damaged some of our plants on our property by walking through them when their ball comes over to our yard. I don't want things to escalate, but eventually something has to be said or else they will keep doing it. This is why I wanted some advice.
    The law is definitely on your side. If you are worried about retaliation, a good webcam works wonders.

    Best thing to do is to ask the kids directly and politely once or twice to not play too late. If they give you lip, escalate. I always try to give people the chance to do the right thing first. But that is me personally.

    My wife and I manage an apartment complex, and deal with stuff like this all the time.

    Do consider asking the police for an occasional drive-by. That way they can say they were sort of in the neighborhood anyways, and you don't get in trouble. Do that AFTER you have asked once or twice, and you can always claim you never specifically called them, and still be honest about that.

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    Chances are they're going to know who made the complaint whether you talk to them first or not.
    Depending on the layout of the neighborhood and the loudness of the kids playing there's a more than good chance that they can only guess who complained.

    You should give your neighbors the benefit of the doubt that they're not complete assholes who are going to slash your tires before you call the cops on them.
    Not much reason at all to give these types of neighbors any benefit of doubt at all, imo.

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    Does Austin have a curfew?

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    Yes, but we've never had any problems with our neighbors or even crime in the neighboorhood. These are recent renters.
    Ah, so they're not really people. them. Slash tires, egg their car(s), brick their windshields, drive them out.

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    Call cops, if you try to handle it yourself then the kids will get wind of it and do to piss you off to spite you. That's the kind of my dumbass friends did back in the day.

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    buy a noisy electric fan or air purifier

    white noise helps cancel out sound

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