Poll: 2nd Greatest PF of all-time???

[dirk4mvp]

Now I'm a Spurs fan....and I've seen enough Tony Parker/Spurs games to remember Tony Parker living in the paint with Dirk's ass right beside (more like behind) him.

Care to call me a liar on that one??? Erica Dampier was SCREAMING for someone to put him on his ass.

Who was guarding Parker on the perimeter? Was he an adequate enough defender to consistently keep Parker from getting in the lane? Don't be re ed on purpose.

[dirk4mvp]

4>0 rings continues his streak of irrelevancy going.

[DMC]

It doesn't matter he won the ring. Not only did he win the ring he did it without any other all-stars on his team. Garnett won with 2 other all-stars and he wasn't even the finals mvp. He also played with what is now considered a top 5 pg in Rondo.

All Star is a popularity contest. Yao Ming gets an All Star slot every year.

[Silver&Black]

Who was guarding Parker on the perimeter? Was he an adequate enough defender to consistently keep Parker from getting in the lane? Don't be re ed on purpose.

ERICA DAMPIER WASN'T GUARDING PARKER ON THE PERIMETER EITHER!!!!!!!! We all know that whoever was playin PG for Dallas was getting his doors blown off from the get-go. WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE!!!!! All the bigs and there so called "help" defense. This includes people like your mighty Dirk.

Did you know that the Spurs have run the pick and roll for over 10 years now??? When a screen is set......THATS THE PURPOSE OF THE PICK AND ROLL!!!!! Get a slower person on Parker....blow by....2 points.

[frodo]

All Star is a popularity contest. Yao Ming get an All Star slot every year.

yeah s won it every year, which however only demonstrated their stupidity and ism tbh. e was voted all-star when he was ruled to miss the entire season, just one quintessence of their stupidity/inferiority tbh

its a population contest imho

[DMC]

Jason Kidd has been to many All Star games including 2010. Jason Terry won the 6th man award just a couple years back. Peja, 3x NBA All Star. Shawn Marion, 3x All Star.

You get the point. Add Tyson Chandler as a solid defender and offensive presence in the paint and Dirk wasn't an island.

[DMC]

Not possible, even then he wouldn't crack the top 10. No D, no rebounding... go sit down.

If the guy's offense was good enough to win 4 rings with a crew of middle of the road players, he would be in the running for top 10 despite his defense and rebounding flaws.

[Nathan89]

All Star is a popularity contest. Yao Ming gets an All Star slot every year.

So who on the Mavs do think should have been an all-star but wasn't popular enough to be one?

[Silver&Black]

On defense alone, Dirk is 5th out of the 5 people on this list.

That's 1/2 the game folks. And I'm not saying that Dirk is terrible at defense, but he's not quite on par with the other four. Offensively, Dirk can hold his own with any of these guys, but he loses points for his defense...sorry that's just me.

For that simple fact alone, I cannot put Dirk #2. But like I said earlier, win another ring and I'll quickly do some re-evaluations.

[DMC]

So who on the Mavs do think should have been an all-star but wasn't popular enough to be one?

It's a popularity contest. You seemed to have missed that point.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Jason Kidd has been to many All Star games including 2010. Jason Terry won the 6th man award just a couple years back. Peja, 3x NBA All Star. Shawn Marion, 3x All Star.

You get the point. Add Tyson Chandler as a solid defender and offensive presence in the paint and Dirk wasn't an island.

Peja. really?

I'd trade you Peja for Bonner straight up tomorrow without blinking. You'd say "no" just as fast.

[DMC]

Peja. really?

I'd trade you Peja for Bonner straight up tomorrow without blinking. You'd say "no" just as fast.

Read the thread dip . It was said that the Dirk had no all stars playing around him. Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and Peja were all stars. TP didn't make the AS this year, does he no longer count as an all star player on the Spurs?

Have people word their responses more carefully and I will avoid using asinine examples.

[Nathan89]

Jason Kidd has been to many All Star games including 2010. Jason Terry won the 6th man award just a couple years back. Peja, 3x NBA All Star. Shawn Marion, 3x All Star.

You get the point. Add Tyson Chandler as a solid defender and offensive presence in the paint and Dirk wasn't an island.

Jkidd 38yo Averaged 8pts
Peja 34yo Didn't even play the entire year with the Mavs
Marion 33yo Average 12.5pts

No, I don't get the point,tbh.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Have people word their responses more carefully and I will avoid using asinine examples.

great exuse. "Everybody else is posting re ed crap, so will I!"

[dirk4mvp]

Parker's not in his mid to late 30's either and hasn't declined as much as any of those players.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

lol tbh DMC's obtuse as bull in this thread only further cements Dirk's legacy.

The Big 3 in Miami was a Big 5 if I've ever seen it. Or do you mother ers not remember All-Stars Mike Bibby and Juwan Howard dominating?

[Nathan89]

It's a popularity contest. You seemed to have missed that point.

No you missed the point.

I said Dirk led a team with no all-stars to a ring.

You said the all-star game is a popularity contest.

Now I want to know who on the ing Mavs deserved to make the all-star game but didn't because it's a popularity contest.

Now name some names.

[frodo]

Read the thread dip . It was said that the Dirk had no all stars playing around him. Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and Peja were all stars. TP didn't make the AS this year, does he no longer count as an all star player on the Spurs?

Have people word their responses more carefully and I will avoid using asinine examples.

dirk was the only all-star from dallas in the 11' all-star game thats the point, and we don't have no such big population to upthrust a 7'6 piece of E into the ASG.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Oh , forgot about Zydrunas and Magloire.

Big 7.

[Nathan89]

Read the thread dip . It was said that the Dirk had no all stars playing around him. Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and Peja were all stars. TP didn't make the AS this year, does he no longer count as an all star player on the Spurs?

Have people word their responses more carefully and I will avoid using asinine examples.

Comparing a former all-star that's still in his prime(parker) to former all-stars that are way past their prime.

[frodo]

lol tbh DMC's obtuse as bull in this thread only further cements Dirk's legacy.

The Big 3 in Miami was a Big 5 if I've ever seen it. Or do you mother ers not remember All-Stars Mike Bibby and Juwan Howard dominating?

and magloire was da eastern starting C once upon a time, Z was also an all-star in as recent as the 06' all-star game IIRC.

[DMC]

Jkidd 38yo Averaged 8pts
Peja 34yo Didn't even play the entire year with the Mavs
Marion 33yo Average 12.5pts

No, I don't get the point,tbh.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5299161&postcount=4

Really?

Why? He played well this playoffs. This is his first time playing next to a superstar and he won a championship. It's not his fault he hasn't ever played next to a superstar. Otherwise he would have more rings.

[Isitjustme?]

Who's operating the DMC troll?

[DMC]

lol tbh DMC's obtuse as bull in this thread only further cements Dirk's legacy.

lol Dirk's legacy riding on my words.

lol Dirk's legacy as an offensive powerhouse only. He will always be seeing Tim Duncan's name ahead of his.

The Big 3 in Miami was a Big 5 if I've ever seen it. Or do you mother ers not remember All-Stars Mike Bibby and Juwan Howard dominating?

Don't equivocate the term "all star" and you wont have these problems.

[DMC]

Who's operating the DMC troll?

Itsjustme