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What a ty take.
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2011/5...arkieff-morris
Kawhi Leonard
•Two-point percentage: 47.8%. That's just dreadful. Some of it can be explained by increased usage (Leonard's rate went from 25.6% to 27.5% from his first to his second year), but no lottery pick should ever be that low without a good reason.Everything about Singleton indicates to me that he is the much better nba prospect and fit for the spurs. Taller, better agility, better leaper, much stronger in the upper body, all of which will translate into a much more polished nba SF/PF. And being able to hit 3's is defenitely a plus in the spurs' system, esp if he's going to be replacing Jefferson in the starting lineup.•3PT%: 29.1%.
•Conclusion: And therein lies the problem. Leonard will have to become a passable three-point shooter, because he is so dreadfully inefficient as a two-point shooter. To do that, he will have to play further away from the basket, which negates his rebounding advantage. This is why I'm down on Leonard as a prospect. He's a great workout guy and has great measurables, but he doesn't have enough scoring ability to be anything more than a self-check as a 4, and even if he develops a three-point shot and becomes a 3/D type, it takes away his biggest on-court asset (rebounding). There are a lot of interesting things to the Leonard package, but they just don't add up to me.
What a ty take.
Singleton has a worse two-point percentage.
Singleton's superior height, agility, strength, and vertical will also help him transition to either SF/PF.Conclusion: The latter figure is what gives Singleton some hope for me. I think he will much more easily transition into a 3/D role than Leonard. He improved his three-point shot from last year to this year, and I think he could develop into a three-point shooter in the pros. That allows me to excuse his similarly dreadful 2PT%, because if he's a 3/D guy, he's not taking a ton of 2s anyway. Leonard is younger, but I'd rather take Singleton than him.
Pop really won't be able to play Leonard as a SF nor will he be able to use him as a PF either. Besides being 2 inches shorter than Singleton and significantly weaker (3x 185lb bar to Singleton's 18x) he'd be regularily abused in the paint.
47% field goal percentage is dreadful for a small forward?
Might not want to tell that to Carmelo Anthony who has a worse shooting percentage.
Leonard is a 3, not a four. That's his position.
Just stfu and quit talking out your ass already.
Since you like quoting sites about players:
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...#ixzz1QIkxoUDVChris Singleton is known as one of the best defenders in this draft class, but his offensive efficiency of .86 PPP leaves a lot to be desired, as it ranks 2nd worst in this group after Chris Wright.
Singleton's mediocre ball-handling skills seem to be the main culprit here. He turns the ball over at a fairly high rate, (14.2% of possessions), which ranks him 6th in this group.
Exactly. He'll be limited to that position whereas Singleton could have been used in either position.
And Singleton will be a much superior defender at either position. Superior vertical, agility & strength will translate into a much better defensive player at the nba level.
Khwami's wingspan and hand size will not make up for his lack of all these other attributes. Quick 3's will blow by him. Big 3's will outmuscle him.
At first I thought he might develop into an Artest type player. Boy looks strong, but only being able to bench 185lb 3x @ 6'7" 230lb is just pitiful. , I'm only 5'9" and 175 after a big meal and I can bench my own weight 3 X.
Your short stubby arms make it easier to lift your weight
This is the same guy who said "what's so special about running".
Actually my arms are extremely long for my height, 73 inch wingspan.
That wasn't me.....but if u think about it.....
Not talking about you. Talking about the guy who you quoted.
Oh lol
Keeping in good cardiovascular health is the key, and running isn't required to do that.
Unless you're suggesting somebody might "forget" how to run. Seems to me its like riding a bicycle, once you learn you'll never forget it
I'm not suggesting anything. You're the one who said "what's so special about running".Keeping in good cardiovascular health is the key, and running isn't required to do that.
Unless you're suggesting somebody might "forget" how to run. Seems to me its like riding a bicycle, once you learn you'll never forget it
So answer the question then, what's so special about running?
When a guy has a broken foot and his job is to run? You're trolling me.
His job is to stay in some kind of physical shape and not turn into a couch potato. Which doesn't require running. He's got an endless supply of choices that are impact free .. swimming, elliptical trainers, exercise bikes, rowng machines just to name a few.
Well, unless he forgets how to run and tries to row his way down the court. That could be a problem I suppose..
TJastal has never seen either Leonard or Singleton play.
first of, it's ok that you would have preferred Singleton. some her share this opinion, some don't. it will take about 1-3 seasons to find out who was right.
however, taking the testing numbers from a single day as if they were the absolute and only proof of a players athletic abilities is nonsense.
watch a player like Leonard and you know that he is a better athlete than this numbers.
maybe this helps to understand:
whatever the reason has been, no athlete in his right mind would try as hard as possible when he is cold. best method to get injured immediately. great moment to get injured, when you face a dozen of individual workouts with interested team, right?@chadfordinsider Chad Ford
One theory on Kawhi Leonard's subpar testing. He did not warm up before the test. Most players had played 45 min. He was cold.
http://twitter.com/#!/chadfordinside...34961223954432
teams test your athletic abilities in those workouts anyhow.
btw. numbers. you can't fluke a 40' vertical when you are a 30' athlete. or 20 reps when your limit is 5.
but a 40' jumper can do a test and (for whatever reason) just jump 30'. doesn't proof that he isn't able to jump 40.
You read my mind. Thank you.
The Mavies have SUCKED at the draft for a long, long time. They often have not even taken decent role players. They have traded some #1s recently, but have only gotten decent production from Howard and Harris over the last decade, and they have been gone for a few years.
SA, on the other had, has generally hit on their #1 picks in that just about all of them (since the drafting of Duncan) are still in the league.
Last edited by Harry Callahan; 06-25-2011 at 12:55 PM.
Being the steal of one of the worst drafts in recent memory is nothing to write home about. That being said, I like the Leonard pick and if Pop gets over himself and gives KL and TS starting nods then the Spurs could be back to being a good defensive team.
They're still a 2nd-round ceiling team with ancient stars, though.
The 2001 draft was a terrible draft, based on eventual production. Tony Parker was the 28th pick in that draft and should have been a top five pick in hindsight.
Hopefully Leonard can be like that too. There's always 4-5 players that get it done and have good careers even in bad drafts.
I have not seen Leonard play. DD, did you see him play some? I assume you are in California.
I think the Spurs max is 2nd round too because of age, but at least some of the pieces for the post Duncan/Manu period may be starting to arrive.
The Lakers are starting to get long in the tooth too to a lesser extent. They have Bynum as a really good young player right now, but his knees are already a bit of a problem. They need some youth too.
No, I'm not from Cali...but SDSU got a little play on late-night ESPN games as the season progressed. He's a versatile player with a ton of athleticism (things you guys already know) that can be a damn good starter if brought up right. Pop is a great coach, but he's gonna need to give the kid a lot of run and let him make mistakes. Don't give him the Splitter treatment.
Like i said before, he needs to start Leonard and TS and stick with them through the growing pains. The team will be better for it.
As for the Lakers...yeah, they're aging as well but they rarely build through the draft anyways. They're gonna need some speed in the backcourt and more scoring off the bench to win another one. The status quo won't do.
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