Hill will be a star in Indiana

[k_nguyen93]

Question: If he had developed more, would he still have been traded (for more value)?

I think so. Again they can't really afford him next year. Right now he's going to command $5mil+ probably.

[coyotes_geek]

He can still be an All Star caliber player and not make the All Star team. I think he's got the tools to be an All Star caliber player. Whether he gets there or not is another story.

To be an all-star caliber player you still need to produce something close to what the guys making the all star team are. Do you really see George Hill being a 20ppg guy? Because that's what he's going to have to do if he's to be considered all star caliber.

I like George Hill as much as the next guy, but saying he's all star caliber is a reach. Nice player, will have a long NBA career, but he's not an all star caliber player.

[Fireball]

I think so. Again they can't really afford him next year. Right now he's going to command $5mil+ probably.

Thanks, thats what I wanted to hear. Perhaps a better George Hill would have moved us into the second round of the playoffs, but he would be gone anyway. We do not need this to go in the typical Louis Scola type of thread ...

[TJastal]

To be an all-star caliber player you still need to produce something close to what the guys making the all star team are. Do you really see George Hill being a 20ppg guy? Because that's what he's going to have to do if he's to be considered all star caliber.

I like George Hill as much as the next guy, but saying he's all star caliber is a reach. Nice player, will have a long NBA career, but he's not an all star caliber player.

Hill has the ability to get to the line 6-7 times a game and knock em in at almost 90%. Beyond that, it's a matter of how many shots he'll get in Indiana, IMO he'll have an expanded role over there and be doing alot of the ballhandling over there so the shots will come. I could see him averaging 19-20 next year, which won't get him on the all star team but might propel the pacers to a winning season.

But even more important than the scoring, however is Hill's playmaking. Which is the biggest question most ppl have with him and that will determine how far he goes in the league. If he learns how to become a great passer, it will just create even more opportunities for himself offensively (to score). And if that happens, he'll become one of the elite players in the league.

[Bruno]

Hill being a local kid and being a nice guy is certainly a reason why Spurs got so much for him. Pacers were the last team in average attendance last year, they badly need to attract more people at their games.

[Interrohater]

Hill being a local kid and being a nice guy is certainly a reason why Spurs got so much for him. Pacers were the last team in average attendance last year, they badly need to attract more people at their games.

Now that is a novel and interesting take. I disagree with those that say he'll be an all-star, but he already seems like he'll be a fan favorite. I really think that his size and lack of the "killer instinct" will impede any massive leaps in his game.

[Ice009]

To be an all-star caliber player you still need to produce something close to what the guys making the all star team are. Do you really see George Hill being a 20ppg guy? Because that's what he's going to have to do if he's to be considered all star caliber.

I like George Hill as much as the next guy, but saying he's all star caliber is a reach. Nice player, will have a long NBA career, but he's not an all star caliber player.

I didn't say at all that he would be. I just said that he could be. He has the tools to do it, so we will see I guess if he can get to that level.

[k_nguyen93]

To be an all-star caliber player you still need to produce something close to what the guys making the all star team are. Do you really see George Hill being a 20ppg guy? Because that's what he's going to have to do if he's to be considered all star caliber.

I like George Hill as much as the next guy, but saying he's all star caliber is a reach. Nice player, will have a long NBA career, but he's not an all star caliber player.

Saw somewhere that George averaged 15ppg in 55 starts for Spurs. It's plausible. Look at a player like Tyreke Evans? Team sucks but he still has the stats. If Hill secures a starting shooting guard position playing 40+ he could average that.

[TJastal]

Now that is a novel and interesting take. I disagree with those that say he'll be an all-star, but he already seems like he'll be a fan favorite. I really think that his size and lack of the "killer instinct" will impede any massive leaps in his game.

[k_nguyen93]

Now that is a novel and interesting take. I disagree with those that say he'll be an all-star, but he already seems like he'll be a fan favorite. I really think that his size and lack of the "killer instinct" will impede any massive leaps in his game.

Very true but who knows being at home may make him feel more comfortable playing and that could carry over to road games. I wish him the best though, if he does develop into a solid point guard, be nice if Spurs signed him once Tony's done.

[ducks]

what should the pacers pay hill next year
hill homers
do you think he worth the mle
three million over thee mle

[k_nguyen93]

Thanks, thats what I wanted to hear. Perhaps a better George Hill would have moved us into the second round of the playoffs, but he would be gone anyway. We do not need this to go in the typical Louis Scola type of thread ...

Realistically looking at the salaries I think the Spurs could have afforded to sign Hill with Duncan coming off the books. However, another young guy like Danny Green would be a restricted agent and then they have to save room for Anderson/Blair/Butler or whoever they want to sign.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/spurs.jsp

[ElBorracho]

Hill will do just fine and he is still developing as a player. Good luck.

[Interrohater]

I'm not quite sure where you're going with a random highlight.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Hill has a chance to be a star on an average team...you are correct sir.




That's why trading a guy that had other people in front of him who were better players, to a team that can use him, all the while getting a guy considered to have top 7 NBA draft talent in return was a genius move by the FO.

[Fireball]

george hill live coverage 2 pm watch here

http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/welco...ck_110627.html

That "Welcome Home" sign and seeing him in a Pacers jersey hurts a bit ... I still think the FO made the right choice, but Leonard has to make an impact to not piss me off ...

[spurs50_]

The Pacers are now my 2nd favorite team.....good luck George.

[hater]

talk about overhyping

[rascal]

Hill has a chance to be a star on an average team...you are correct sir.




That's why trading a guy that had other people in front of him who were better players, to a team that can use him, all the while getting a guy considered to have top 7 NBA draft talent in return was a genius move by the FO.

The more genius move was to trade Manu and move Hill to the starting 2, develop Hill into the player he will become in Indiana and make a major upgrade frontline acquisition with the Manu trade.

Now the spurs are left with little for a major frontline addition and will again fall short because of frontline deficiencies.

[Mel_13]

trade Manu

[elemento]

Yeah because trading Manu and starting George Hill would solve all our problems. People really don't understand how important Manu is to us.

Teams won't pay much for Manu because he is 34 years-old and frequently has healthy issues. It doesn't make any sense for us to trade Manu because he is a top 3 SG and the little value in return we would get.

If you think we are going to get a super stud big with Manu you are delusional my friend. And we are not going anywhere with a backcourt with 2 6"2 players.

[Mel_13]

Yeah because trading Manu and starting George Hill would solve all our problems. People really don't understand how important Manu is to us.

Teams won't pay much for Manu because he is 34 years-old and frequently has healthy issues. It doesn't make any sense for us to trade Manu because he is a top 3 SG and the little value in return we would get.

If you think we are going to get a super stud big with Manu you are delusional my friend. And we are not going anywhere with a backcourt with 2 6"2 players.

It's pretty much just the OP.

[rascal]

Yeah because trading Manu and starting George Hill would solve all our problems. People really don't understand how important Manu is to us.

Teams won't pay much for Manu because he is 34 years-old and frequently has healthy issues. It doesn't make any sense for us to trade Manu because he is a top 3 SG and the little value in return we would get.

If you think we are going to get a super stud big with Manu you are delusional my friend. And we are not going anywhere with a backcourt with 2 6"2 players.

The spurs are not going anywhere with the frontline they have + the backup quality scrub they will add. Manu has really gotten the team far the last 4 years.

Manu is a top 3 sg yet has no trade value.

[Mel_13]

See what I mean.

[elemento]

The spurs are not going anywhere with the frontline they have + the backup quality scrub they will add. Manu has really gotten the team far the last 4 years.

Manu is a top 3 sg yet has no trade value.

When did I say Manu has no trade value ?

Considering age and healthy issues, Manu has more value to us than any other team in the league. Our best trade chip is Parker and he is not going anywhere.

I will ask you. What players do you think we could land with Manu? Tell me 5 reasonable names that would make us immediate le contenders considering the fact that we would not have Manu anymore as well.