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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Point is you picked a bad player to fill the team with shaq and Duncan.
    i clearly stated the intent was to give each team a pair of 2nd/3rd tier players that were well rounded and match up decently with the opposing duo, and just threw out Marion's name as an example. he most definitely is fitting of a 2nd/3rd tier player, and most definitely can match up decently with MJ/Kobe. the same argument could be made on the other side that Bynum/Nene are not a good pair to place alongside MJ/Kobe for various reasons. Again, my intent was to provide 2nd/3rd tier players that can match up with Shaq/Duncan.

    of course, i shouldnt expect a gnsf nor a moron named "nathan" to understand such a simple illustration

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    you obviously are missing the point, you ing idiot.

    and if you really want to get technical, Dirk > Duncan for these particular matchups as well.
    Your stupid point was to suround Kobe/MJ with 2/3 tier bigmen and an average pass-first PG, and Shaq/Duncan with 2/3 tier wings and an average pass-first PG. But you gave arbitrary names to fill those postions and plyers can be from the same tier but very differents an it would change my opinion of what team I would chose. I was just noticing how stupid your point was, as they usually are, tbh.

    Dirk > Prime Duncan isn't option for any particular matchup.

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    i clearly stated the intent was to give each team a pair of 2nd/3rd tier players that were well rounded and match up decently with the opposing duo, and just threw out Marion's name as an example. he most definitely is fitting of a 2nd/3rd tier player, and most definitely can match up decently with MJ/Kobe. the same argument could be made on the other side that Bynum/Nene are not a good pair to place alongside MJ/Kobe for various reasons. Again, my intent was to provide 2nd/3rd tier players that can match up with Shaq/Duncan.

    of course, i shouldnt expect a gnsf nor a moron named "nathan" to understand such a simple illustration
    You clearly can not get the point, so I must explain it better. While you may have tried your hardest to put together equal talent you still failed miserably. On one team you place Bynum/Nene who are going to match up well on one end and not be a hindrance on the offensive end. On the other team you provide Marion who may be a decent defender will be a huge hindrance on the other end. A player that even in his prime couldn't do jack when Bowen played against him in the playoffs.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Your stupid point was to suround Kobe/MJ with 2/3 tier bigmen and an average pass-first PG, and Shaq/Duncan with 2/3 tier wings and an average pass-first PG. But you gave arbitrary names to fill those postions and plyers can be from the same tier but very differents an it would change my opinion of what team I would chose. I was just noticing how stupid your point was, as they usually are, tbh.

    Dirk > Prime Duncan isn't option for any particular matchup.
    im sorry, i forgot im arguing with the "manu > dirk" dumb .

    LMAO LMAO LMAO

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    im sorry, i forgot im arguing with the "manu > dirk" dumb .

    LMAO LMAO LMAO
    Yeah, I knew you didn't have a response to that.

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    On the other team you provide Marion who may be a decent defender will be a huge hindrance on the other end. A player that even in his prime couldn't do jack when Bowen played against him in the playoffs.
    I think a lot of players had their share of troubles against Bowen.

    But I find it hard to believe that he is a huge hindrance on the other end when he was scoring well over 20 ppg. Obviously he is doing something right offensively. People may want to say "its all steve nash!!!" but thats crap because he was putting up great numbers even before Nash came around.

    Marion has been a guy who's skills have not been used to the full his whole career, and I never realized that until he came to Dallas, and proved he was capable of scoring one-on-one against foes, even against great defenders. He consistently complained that he was held back because of the system he was in, and others that played with him agreed. I think its very arguable that his points have now been validated.

    But again, the individual role players is not what the discussion is about. It's whether Kobe/MJ and some decent role players or Shaq/Duncan and some decent role players would be more successful.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Yeah, I knew you didn't have a response to that.
    No i just didnt bother wasting my time reading your bull , once I looked at your SN and realized who you were.

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    Convinient.

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    First two "average" PGs I thought of.

    Career averages of 11/5 and 13/6 aren't average?
    He was using a hypothetical scenario, implying they were equal. In that case it wouldn't matter who they were.

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    Okay, that's why I asked whether he meant a PG like Sessions or Hinrich, both average PGs, but both are different players.

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    You clearly can not get the point, so I must explain it better. While you may have tried your hardest to put together equal talent you still failed miserably. On one team you place Bynum/Nene who are going to match up well on one end and not be a hindrance on the offensive end. On the other team you provide Marion who may be a decent defender will be a huge hindrance on the other end. A player that even in his prime couldn't do jack when Bowen played against him in the playoffs.

    dis shat rat he-uh is all I eva revember.....


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    weak stuff . . .

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    Prime Shaq and Duncan together would stop any team.

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    MJ+Sidekick vs 2 dominant bigs that are true leaders?

    I'd take Shaq and Duncan easily.

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    Pippen and Jordan = most versatile duo of all time

    Both of them could play 3 positions

    And they were both great defensive players



    Sorry, but Kobe/Shaq and Duncan/David can go suck a

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    have you seen marions jumpshot? i'm pretty sure he overachieved in the nba

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    have you seen marions jumpshot? i'm pretty sure he overachieved in the nba


    Yep. Marion just be throwing against the wall hoping it sticks.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    lol smelly argie cant spell

    dumbass

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    lol smelly argie cant spell

    dumbass
    You must have to beat the women away from you with a stick.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    Okay, that's why I asked whether he meant a PG like Sessions or Hinrich, both average PGs, but both are different players.
    you people are some goddamn idiots. the point of it was to see which duo would lead a team of equally matched up role players to victory, not to analyze each ing player to the teeth.

    since you are all too stupid to get the point, let me reword it:

    give both duos the exact same PG (a pass first one that can shoot open shots)

    MJ and Kobe have to both face guys who are capable of defending MJ and Kobe decently, hitting open shots, handling the ball decently, rebounding decently, and finishing decently, and on the other hand, Shaq and Duncan have to face guys who are capable of defending Shaq and Duncan decently, hitting open short-range shots, clogging the lane decently, guarding the pick and roll decently, rebounding and boxing out decently, and with some decent post play abilities

    who wins, you ing idiots?

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    your mother got

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    you people are some goddamn idiots. the point of it was to see which duo would lead a team of equally matched up role players to victory, not to analyze each ing player to the teeth.

    since you are all too stupid to get the point, let me reword it:

    give both duos the exact same PG (a pass first one that can shoot open shots)

    MJ and Kobe have to both face guys who are capable of defending MJ and Kobe decently, hitting open shots, handling the ball decently, rebounding decently, and finishing decently, and on the other hand, Shaq and Duncan have to face guys who are capable of defending Shaq and Duncan decently, hitting open short-range shots, clogging the lane decently, guarding the pick and roll decently, rebounding and boxing out decently, and with some decent post play abilities

    who wins, you ing idiots?
    You prefer to curl up with a sci-fi movie over being outdoors. You put too much ketchup on your food. You fight with your sister who's 10 years younger than you. Your mom still does your laundry.

    Close?

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    This is actually an interesting topic. Kobe and Jordan going at each other in practice would be something, and it would make them even better man defenders. But the utter inside dominating from O'Neal and Duncan is hard to pass up. Tough one.
    like the 10 fake all defensive teams kobe achieve on reputation? lol media fabricated d-team selections

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    In all seriousness TD and shaq

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    WITTy RETORT!

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