"raising the limit is the responsible thing to do"
today's Repug deficit hawks were dubya's deficit doves, raising the debt limit 7 times without panic, while running the up national debt like it was St Ronnie all over again.
There is no deficit panic. The Repugs don't give a about future generations, the socioptaths don't give about the current generation.
The deficit results from a VRWC/Repug well-known policy decisions going back to the 1970s.
The Tea Party will not be easily reconciled to the power this measure would punt to the President. If it does get punted though, Obama will own the debt ceiling 100% and the Republicans can bury the president in resolutions of condemnation.
It sounds like a perfectly terrible idea and an ins utional wuss-out to boot, but maybe it's just a ghost story McConnell is telling to frighten his own caucus into making a deal. Quien sabe?
Make what look like their fault? We haven't defaulted yet and you can be sure the business community has informed the GOP exactly how much time they have to "play tuff" before raising the cap.
Thats odd anyway you slice it but perhaps the motivation is the likelyhood that the debt ceiling is actually uncons utional so the GOP may see this as the best way to spin it politically.
Crazy, but that don't surprise me much.
Sorry, that could have been stated more clearly, but I was referring to the repubs complete unwillingness to negotiate. I don't think they're hard-line on 'tax-hikes' is in line with what the american people want as Boehner/Cantor/McConnell keep feeding us and they're looking increasingly intractable.
They have informed them somewhat formally, but the real way that information will be transmitted is through financial market data.
So far, nary a blip, but I think that if things do start to shift, the results will be pretty dramatic, as the "fear" force kicks in.
At that point, it will be too late to put the cat back in the bag, and no one knows exactly where that tipping point is, because it isn't a conscious consensus.
Most believe that this is very empty posturing, and everything will be honky dory, but that can turn on a dime.
I think it is highly irresponsible to play this game, even if no consequences have materialized so far. It is maddening to see the kind of risks being taken for the sake of political gain to make tea party radicals happy.
It's to their advantage to look that way until the time comes to fold their hand, hold their noses and raise the cap.
It is highly irresponsible not to get reelected. How can you be a force for the good if you don't win the election?
Apparently the GOP fears the tea party more than default. Such is politics.
They aren't holding back here.The sticking-point is not on the spending side. It is because the vast majority of Republicans, driven on by the wilder-eyed members of their party and the cacophony of conservative media, are clinging to the position that not a single cent of deficit reduction must come from a higher tax take. This is economically illiterate and disgracefully cynical.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/us...l.html?_r=1&hp
These in' republicans are just stupid.
I became a firm Democrat after the 2003-2006 Republican -up in Iraq, and all the asshats trying desperately to defend the incompant mother ers in the Bush administration whose negligence was killing our troops, but I swear if the Republicans this up too...
The GOP is looking back to the budget deal that Bush I passed back in 1991. It included raised taxes and it obviously blew up in his face. The read my lips nonsense if any of you recall.
I will say it again. The GOP is great at campaigning. They are at it all the time. They suck ass at policy making.
The prospects are looking better going forward. Party identification of people coming out of college is becoming less and less. Maybe one day soon we will start to see ballots without party identification on the candidates.
How many times you think WC has hit the lever over the republican column on election day? Who needs to think when they do it for you?
"They suck ass at policy making."
Government Is The Problem
They don't give a about governing, or The American People. The better they mis-govern by transferring taxpayer $Ts to the corps and capitalists, they better they like it.
Norquist-sucking Repugs walk out of Saturday's WH talks.
This week, Repugs voted to keep ALL of the subsidies and tax expenditures for BigCarbon.
"Obama would be impeached if he blocked debt payments"
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...ment-defaults/
I figured the debt thing would be over by now. Good for the ball baggers to keep everyone on their toes. We need a third, forth party. The dems need to come up with a alternative to them. .
The problem is that the donors that pay for those campaigns are all the same, and want all the same 'benefits'. A third or fourth party won't change that dynamic. It would be a different label to differentiate themselves in marketing speak, but same content.
They don't have the votes to keep us from defaulting, and now he thinks they have the votes to impeach which is an even higher threshold? That's pretty much the level of thinking you get from republicans.
taking me paying social security taxes and not be able to pay it to me is wrong
let me have that money and let me do what I WANt with it
if a lose it fine I will not ask the gov to help me out. I would atleast have a chance of having it. I have no chance NOW
"I will not ask the gov to help me out."
but taxpayers are already committed to accept you at taxpayer-funded medical facilities if you can't pay.
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