I'm not really sure how it works to begin with. Last time I was familiar with a Pell grant, you had to maintain a specific GPA or higher to stay qualified. If a school has a say in the matter, that tells me they are on the hook for it if you drop below that given GPA. They have a say anyway in who they want to admit or not.
Regardless of the current rules, I think the Pell grant should be given entirely by the student's merits. Not by the school he/she is going to.
It is given entirely based on the students conditions and the requirements are really lax (something like a 2.0 GPA, 66% completion rate). However, the Universities oversee the distribution because they already have the infrastructure in place. Doesn't make sense to duplicate it.
I don't mind them overseeing the distribution as long as they don't have a say that is contrary to who they would enroll otherwise.
Hope you're not turning blue, WH.
I had to go to work. I have no idea what WC claimed, even after reading through it.
What I meant is that if they are paying out of pocket, or with a grant, they should be treated equally when it comes to acceptance. Judged by the same scholastic merits.
I was just recounting to my wife about how I managed to work my way through undergrad, but couldn't dream of doing that in todays world. Crazy.
Education has become bas ized as a business venture just like any other.
I just got my tuition bill for next fall. Taking 2 classes was a staggering 4 grand.
Even making payments, I don't see how someone who yet does not have a degree can work a minimum wage job and expect to be able to pay their way through college without assistance from loans and grants...
I remember when Jerome JYD Williams explained that he worked his way through college and absolutely refused to take any assistance... Don't know how he did it. I really don't. That just couldn't happen today.
Tell that to universities who are losing research grants due to falling quality of grant submissions. It's awfully difficult to do quality research when you're responsible for the academic end of things as well. In my case, there's a third component: clinical. It's gets awfully hard to do anything effectively or compentently when you're pulled in three distinctly different directions. But as some have stated here, most grants puled in more than pay for our salaries. I personally have never on a state payroll, my grants paid for my salary and for those of my students.
You have it right here. Focus is on research because that's the big money maker for most departments. Most R01 or big money grants result in some sort of patent for which the university engages in profit sharing with the primary investigator. For evidence, one can google the "Palmaz Stent". That's financed more than a few ventures over the years for UTHSCSA.
Most departments now turn to adjunct faculty in order to fil the voids left in teaching undergraduate classes.
I feel for you. Most of my students had similar stories.
Granted (no pun intended), I was single but I was in my own apartment ($550/month) and had a old beat up land-yacht (77 Volaire) which I picked up at a junk yard for about 3 bills. I had basic internet and no cable. I worked 30 hours/week at USAA and made about 11.00/hour. Tuition was about 750 for 15 hours.
No way in do I make it on 1200/month today AND pay my way through school.
Must have been nice to not get nickel and dimed with gym fees, instructional enhancement fees, student center fees, and so on that made school cost a lot more than just tuition+books+room.
the students are asking, but they'll be ignored
Students aren't the only ones asking and looking at it...
http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-...s-1248814.html
you go rick. cut state funding and then suggest higher education ins utions reduce tuition to make up for the difference. brilliant
"Do you really want a stripped-down, bare-bones degree?" - Hugill...
Yes, I believe there is a market for that... And yes, I would sign up for one... If it gave me the skills my employer was looking for... I don't think I need a bio class, that costs 2000 dollars, plus a 250 dollar text book, transportation and living costs, when I am pursuing, say, an accounting degree...
Exactly. Have extensive exit testing to determine what people really do and don't know. You just have to take the sections relevant to the employment you are seeking. Something similar to the SAT but college level with more diversity.
They're not already?
I have never found being accepted to college very difficult. I have family that was 'accepted' to 'prestigious' universities... However, that didn't mean they could afford to actually 'go' there, even with grants and loans. Nothing short of private bank loans would have made going to those universities an option.
If by this it's meant that I take only the core courses in my chosen major, then by all means yes."Do you really want a stripped-down, bare-bones degree?"
I've always laughed at the "well rounded student" pitch. Saw through that from day one.
By the time I hit undergrad, I've had 12 years of "rounding".
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