SF Police shoot and kill man who shot at them, then ignorant black bystanders get mad

[DMC]

I explained it already...

Put yourself in the officers shoes...

You pull over a vehicle at night...you cannot see into the car, it is dark, at any time you can get blown away...sure 9 times out of ten...it will turn out to be a routine traffic stop and the driver will be some housewife in her 40's...no problem.

The one time out of a hundred...it could be some idiot that is out on parole...he just drank some booze...and he swears he will never go back to prison...

The officer has no idea if THIS traffic stop is the one where the convict is pulling out a weapon from under the seat to blow his away...so THIS is why they draw their weapon...because they do not want to be the ONE cop that nonchalantly walked up to a car without his weapon ready and got blown to .

This is the reality of policework. I am not paranoid. This is police procedure ..which no-one ever thinks about....they just get pissed when they see a video and a cop shoots a kid and the kid happened to NOT have a weapon...well...the officer THOUGHT that the kid pulled out a shiny metal object from his waistband...and in the split-second before he could confirm that it was a gun....he shot and killed...and the kid was only pulling out his cell phone, enraging all the cop haters to call the cops dirty and the shooting unjustified.

I understand what you are trying to say, but you've already screwed the pooch here when you said it's not a precautionary measure. If it's not precautionary, why draw a gun you aren't even going to point at anyone?

The potential for danger does not equate to a life threatening situation. If it's life threatening for a cop, it's also life threatening for the driver, because he's actually getting a gun drawn on him.

There are some cops who rarely draw their weapon, but others that issue search warrants and search domiciles, they usually have their weapons drawn even if out of sight.

"The ONLY time...I repeat...the ONLY time a cop is supposed to draw his weapon is when his life or an innocent bystanders life is in immediate danger"

Traffic stops are not "immediate danger" else there would always be backup and no one would approach the vehicle. The driver would be requested to step out of the vehicle, place both hands in clear sight and get down onto the ground with hands behind the head. That's what happens in car chases. Traffic stops must therefore be different.

[pawe]

I explained it already...

The officer has no idea if THIS traffic stop is the one where the convict is pulling out a weapon from under the seat to blow his away...so THIS is why they draw their weapon...because they do not want to be the ONE cop that nonchalantly walked up to a car without his weapon ready and got blown to .

You said earlier my info is wrong and now you're contradicting yourself?

LEO's draw down their firearms a lot of times specially on highly populated areas because they just dont know what they'll be up against when responding to a call or a stop.

Face it, we live in a world where people do not respect lives and do not fear the authorities anymore. LEOs need to be more paranoid and like what you said earlier, they have families too. They'd rather kill the perp than follow proper procedures and get shot.

[silverblk mystix]

You said earlier my info is wrong and now you're contradicting yourself?

LEO's draw down their firearms a lot of times specially on highly populated areas because they just dont know what they'll be up against when responding to a call or a stop.

Face it, we live in a world where people do not respect lives and do not fear the authorities anymore. LEOs need to be more paranoid and like what you said earlier, they have families too. They'd rather kill the perp than follow proper procedures and get shot.

You just proved my point..."they draw their weapons because they just don't know what they'll be up against....."

Exactly...they are in fear for their lives or safety or the lives and safety of innocent bystanders-so they draw their weapons. This is not a precaution...this is in response to a fear that their lives may be in danger. This is correct procedure. This is why at night...is when a traffic stop becomes dangerous...you never know who is inside the vehicle, if they are armed, if they are crazy, if they are pointing a weapon,etc...

It is different than just a precautionary measure. Or you can even say it is semantics...but the overriding factor is always if you feel that your life or an innocent civilians life is in danger.

[silverblk mystix]

...just to clarify...

there is a difference in a type of call...

If a police unit are dispatched, say, to a report of someone wanting to report a car break-in...or a broken window...or a ing cat up a tree...

The officers will respond in a normal courteous way (hopefully), their weapons holstered, and in a manner of being of service or of being helpful to a caller in distress.

If the same unit is dispatched to a risky neighborhood and the call reports that shots were reported fired...or that a neighbor heard gunshots and would like the police to check the neighbors house...

then the police will respond to the call and they will normally draw their weapons and consider that there could be danger (ie: in fear for their lives)...then this is why the weapons are drawn. It always comes down to a matter of fearing for their safety.

[Chomag]

Police draw their weapons all the time, usually when they pull over a suspect or someone that has resisted arrest. Years ago when I was younger I myself was pulled over and taken into custody at gun-point. Due to mistaken iden y of course All Becuase I fit the description of who they were looking for that night.

Thankfully it seems to be a once in a lifetime experience because it was not fun at all.

Back to the point though, watch "Cops" and you see that it's pretty much routine.

[phxspurfan]

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