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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    If you enter the storm, you are going to have to ride it out. If someone is sitting there in 2006 and plans on retiring in 2011, they should have very little exposure to the stock market. If they stayed in past 2007, then they should they have to stick it out, and make the best of things by buying low.
    Is it riding out a storm or outright gambling?
    Sometimes you can't postpone your retirement indefinitely.

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    Ok. I didn't know where to post this and didnt want to start a thread. Plus, I haven't seen this addressed any where on here. If I'm mistaken, then please forgive me. With all this mess; market, credit ratings, etc, why is gas going down? It was at least a quarter more on Friday than it is today.

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    Ok. I didn't know where to post this and didnt want to start a thread. Plus, I haven't seen this addressed any where on here. If I'm mistaken, then please forgive me. With all this mess; market, credit ratings, etc, why is gas going down? It was at least a quarter more on Friday than it is today.
    Speculation that a coming recession will reduce future demand for oil.

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    Ok. I didn't know where to post this and didnt want to start a thread. Plus, I haven't seen this addressed any where on here. If I'm mistaken, then please forgive me. With all this mess; market, credit ratings, etc, why is gas going down? It was at least a quarter more on Friday than it is today.
    Oil futures/contracts going down. There's speculation of a double-dip recession and the economy contracting further.

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    down triple digits again. apparantely the market isn't too happy with what the fed said today.
    Scratch that. Apparantely the market loves it.

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    So we could be further crippled if say an oil field was attacked or just blew up for no reason. That's great.

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    So we could be further crippled if say an oil field was attacked or just blew up for no reason. That's great.
    If you see something, say something...

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    Oh really? Thats why a certain someone I know losing upwards of 250k yesterday is no big deal. He's just a panicky ?

    After losing somewhere near $100k the day before.
    The stock market isn't for the short term investor unless they know how to be a day trader. If your friend could not afford to lose it, then he shouldn't have had it there.

    I'm not even keeping track of my current losses. I'm just smiling that every payday, I'll have hundreds of dollars of purchases buying even more shares as they drop farther in price. I'll be one happy camper when the prices recover.

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    down triple digits again. apparantely the market isn't too happy with what the fed said today.
    I think it's more than that. With the loss of the uptick rule, I think short sellers are driving it down farther than would be natural.

    If I got their memo, I would have traded some of my stocks for securities. Now that the drop started, I'll just leave them alone. Not good to follow the leader with stocks.

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    Dude, the market rallied to close.

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    Cycles are normal.

    Why is everyone panicking?
    Many companies are reporting record earnings. This is just typical Wall Street panic. It doesn't bother me though. I may actually starting buying tomorrow.
    I lost about 5000 today. No big whoop. It's all the panicky s that make it worse.
    Yep, as the idiots buy high and sell low, the wealthy buy low and sell high. Then the idiots complain about how unfair it it.
    This. When it rains on wallstreet it pours because of idiots who overreact to every tiny piece of news that has nothing to do with the companies they're investing in.
    The stock market isn't for the short term investor unless they know how to be a day trader. If your friend could not afford to lose it, then he shouldn't have had it there.

    I'm not even keeping track of my current losses. I'm just smiling that every payday, I'll have hundreds of dollars of purchases buying even more shares as they drop farther in price. I'll be one happy camper when the prices recover.
    I think it's more than that. With the loss of the uptick rule, I think short sellers are driving it down farther than would be natural.

    If I got their memo, I would have traded some of my stocks for securities. Now that the drop started, I'll just leave them alone. Not good to follow the leader with stocks.
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    And it's true, companies are racking in record earnings. For example, JP Morgan Chase & Co shouldn't be even be racking 5 bn per quarter but they have in two successive quarters now -- 5.5 bn in both quarters to be exact. The year is just halfway but they have already amassed 11 bn. A good portion of it is because of their huge savings with bad loans & bad credit appropriations, but still, most of their businesses have been doing really well. The street estimates the trajectory of NYSE:JPM at 20-22 bn for the fiscal year. I would be so surprised if they don't break the 20 bn barrier. Wells Fargo also recorded the highest earnings in history, and so is Apple racking record sales & profits.

    It's just kind of annoying that stock prices are crashing due to slightly irrelevant pieces of information. Of course it will have SOME effects, but losing 10% of your market cap just because of that piece of news that is totally irrelevant to the way you do business is ridiculous. As ty as Wall Street the movie was, at least they got it right when it said in the movie that "it's all about speculation".

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    lol those who panicked and sold, only to see it reb...fck that

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    Wheeeeeee!!!!

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    nice rebound

    400+ points down in 1st hour

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    French banks is like rubber necking at an accident right now.


    Shares in French bank Societe Generale (SOGN.PA) fell more than 21 percent, hitting a 2-1/2-year low and sharply underperforming the European banking sector.
    SocGen was not immediately available for comment.


    Other French banks also fell sharply, with BNP Paribas (BNPP.PA) down more than 13 percent and Credit Agricole (CAGR.PA) off more than 14 percent.

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    tell that to the poor bas s that were due to retire in 2008,2009,2010
    If you were set to retire in a couple of years and you had a large amount of your money in the stock market then you made a huge huge huge mistake.

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    Ok. I didn't know where to post this and didnt want to start a thread. Plus, I haven't seen this addressed any where on here. If I'm mistaken, then please forgive me. With all this mess; market, credit ratings, etc, why is gas going down? It was at least a quarter more on Friday than it is today.
    When the economy contracts people drive less and use less energy in general as they try to save money. Companies don't have to ship as much and energy use across the board goes down. Because demand is driven down the cost comes down as well. The futures are reacting to the impression that the economy is likely to slow down and the price will therefor drop.

    As we at risk for the economy being hurt if there is some kind of large disaster that hurts our energy supply? Of course. But that isn't something unique to the current economic climate. Whether the economy is doing well or not we are always at risk to rising energy costs on a disaster that chokes off supply.

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    Down another 500 today.

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    Panicky s, spoiling it for the rest of us.

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    Pretty much, but I'm on the silver-lining "buying opportunity" bandwagon.

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    I'm on the "I'll retire 10 ing years after I'm dead" bandwagon.

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    it's funny, ppl here act like they know the stock market. Why the are you here posting then and not having lunch with Warren Buffet?

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