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  1. #51
    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    I won't bother mentioning the names of those who abandoned their teams because of player acquisitions, rotations, strategies and such, and who did so pretty much mid season. Some of you have returned to join in on the victory celebrations.

    Do any of you feel you have lost just a small bit of what joy you could have felt had you not been consummate bandwagon riders? Does it eat at you just a little that you sold your team for a few pieces of forum silver, so you can later say "I was right, they sucked"? Don't you feel like that person who sold all their stock the week before the big buyout, for about 500x less than you could have gotten had you waited? Don't you feel like this guy, who doesn't belong there only no one told you?



    Since I haven't named anyone, just use that little twinge of guilt that tugs on your heart and your ego once you have read this to know if it's you, but you don't need to respond. Just ask yourself the question "Am I a piece of bandwagon riding sellout?" If you can say "no" honestly, it's not you.
    I don't quit. I may be pessimistic as , write off my team that day, and curse them up and down, but I'll be there watching the next game.

    Spurfans are pretty bad about quitting, to be honest. I remember reading a thread where they were like, "THE SEASON'S OVER" against the Grizz when they were down by double digits in the 3rd quarter. The 3rd!

  2. #52
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    Ummmmmm, pretty sure every board you go on has threads like that.

  3. #53
    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    But what about if that fan/fanbase returns with "we are the champions" after the Suns pull it out (humor me)?
    That kinda happened with the Boston Bruins this year. Many fans thanked the current Bruins roster but still hated management (who admittedly sucked hardcore until after the lockout).

  4. #54
    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    Ummmmmm, pretty sure every board you go on has threads like that.
    I don't see it quite as vivid. Boston boards tend to be bipolar about the player himself (ie. PIERCE YOU SUCK DON'T SHOOT THAT *Pierce sinks an off-balance 3* YESSSS THE TRUTH!!!) than the game. In some of the threads upstairs, people were quitting on the game in the 3rd quarter. That's pretty sad.

    And I'm not even going to count the numerous implied "If it wasn't for Bonner/RJ we would've won the ship!" comments.

  5. #55
    <><><><><><> ALVAREZ6's Avatar
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    I don't see it quite as vivid. Boston boards tend to be bipolar about the player himself (ie. PIERCE YOU SUCK DON'T SHOOT THAT *Pierce sinks an off-balance 3* YESSSS THE TRUTH!!!) than the game. In some of the threads upstairs, people were quitting on the game in the 3rd quarter. That's pretty sad.

    And I'm not even going to count the numerous implied "If it wasn't for Bonner/RJ we would've won the ship!" comments.
    Do you honestly think the overall posting tendencies of fans of different teams with massive followings really vary?




    Especially consider the fact that here at ST so many threads are started per game, whether it's here or in the Spurs forum, especially during playoff games.

  6. #56
    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    Do you honestly think the overall posting tendencies of fans of different teams with massive followings really vary?
    To a small extent, sure. Look at Laker fans on these boards. Extremely y, and self-assured they will ring each year. Heck, they think Dwight will go to the Lakers just because he wants to see some film stars in town. And I don't think it's relegated only to ST, there's a lot of these fans on other Laker sites. (Though LG has alot of bipolar-ish posts too.)

  7. #57
    <><><><><><> ALVAREZ6's Avatar
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    To a small extent, sure. Look at Laker fans on these boards. Extremely y, and self-assured they will ring each year. Heck, they think Dwight will go to the Lakers just because he wants to see some film stars in town. And I don't think it's relegated only to ST, there's a lot of these fans on other Laker sites. (Though LG has alot of bipolar-ish posts too.)
    The 10 total Laker fans on this board? Or even if it's 20, 30, whatever it is, even though it's probably somewhere close to 10 that post regularly after factoring in duplicate entries due to troll accounts.

    BTW are you really using the Laker fans on this board as support? The overly iness and believing Dwight is going to LA can either be trolling or real, there aren't always fine lines and it's often hard to tell. Given that gray area, the fact there's a small amount to begin with, not really evidence.



    Just a funny observation you make, that's all. Boston fans tend to single out a player..whether it's Red Sox fans, Bruins fans, Celtics fans on __.com, or Celtics fans on _(a different site)_.com, they typically single out a player, but quitting on the team is relatively uncommon! But Spurs fans tend to give up on games, that's the distinction. Weird because my observations over the years have been like this: there have been hundreds of Spurs threads started that only single out a player (actually many players have commanded hundreds themselves), hundreds of threads that simply give up on the game being played, hundreds that simply give up on the team, and also tons that incorporate some type of mix of those. I haven't noticed in which proportions, but there seems to be a load of every kind every year. This leads me to believe you could find a similar tendency on popular boards of other teams, and I don't really think the variation is significant.

  8. #58
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    You can ^

  9. #59
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    No, there's nothing wrong with abandoning your team when times get hard and returning with hands held high when they win.

    I just hope people don't feel a tad bit cowardly because of it. It's only a game.
    Ultimately sports franchises are businesses, and should more or less be treated as such. I might frequent a restaurant down the street, but they're not just en led to my patronage because they exist. It's on them to produce fare worthy of my patronage.

    Example: I'm a Cleveland Indians fan. That's the only baseball team I'll ever root for. But as of now I won't spend my money to see them play in person, because I don't approve of the people running the club. I don't believe they particularly care about putting a championship-caliber team on the field.

    When they're serious about winning, I'll spend my money in their ballpark. I'm not putting on a pink Red Sox hat in the meantime. But I'm not going to spend my dollar to sustain a regime I don't believe in just so I can beat my chest about how loyal I am.

  10. #60
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    Ultimately sports franchises are businesses, and should more or less be treated as such. I might frequent a restaurant down the street, but they're not just en led to my patronage because they exist. It's on them to produce fare worthy of my patronage.

    Example: I'm a Cleveland Indians fan. That's the only baseball team I'll ever root for. But as of now I won't spend my money to see them play in person, because I don't approve of the people running the club. I don't believe they particularly care about putting a championship-caliber team on the field.

    When they're serious about winning, I'll spend my money in their ballpark. I'm not putting on a pink Red Sox hat in the meantime. But I'm not going to spend my dollar to sustain a regime I don't believe in just so I can beat my chest about how loyal I am.
    The point of the OP is whether or not individual fan/team championship value was lost by denouncing the team during regular season. I think for some it was. It's probably just a misfortune for a few who have followed the team for years, to denounce them a few months prior to their first ring, but it happened.

    I know I could not take as much satisfaction in a Spurs championship had I publicly denounced the team early on, and not even had I privately done so. I might raise an eyebrow and think "wow, who knew?" but I wouldn't have the urge to share in the celebration with fans who stuck with the team through the hard times, even if I knew I could always pass my unfaithfulness off as just being disgruntled. I could say I secretly followed the team, if that got me through, but then I would be dishonest and the entire point would be moot.

    And for the record (if there is one), I don't consider restaurants and team sports on the same level, so yours is a poor analogy. I don't see anyone here wearing restaurant jerseys or using restaurant avatars. We are fans, not just patrons, of sports teams.

  11. #61
    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    long post... This leads me to believe you could find a similar tendency on popular boards of other teams, and I don't really think the variation is significant.
    Probably. I'm not willing to do any sort of statistical work to back up my claim.

  12. #62
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    To be equally a fan of when they are winning and when they are losing is almost impossible. For those to say you aren't a true fan is ridiculous. I guess true fans are held to incredibly high standards that very few live up to in that case. Like some say here. It's just a game.

  13. #63
    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    I admit to having quit on my team a couple of times even just last season, only to find myself realizing that I shouldn't quit on them because they have done so much.

    Ashamed? Nope, maybe more of I feel helpless sometimes.

  14. #64
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    You will all be quitting on your teams AGAIN when the lockout is over and we are ringing #17.

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    Veteran Isitjustme?'s Avatar
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    ^Who's operating the cobbler troll?

  16. #66
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    To summarize this thread: None of the respondents quit on their respective team prior to the championship. Since only one team won a championship this year, we can narrow down the responses that actually mean anything.

    Strangely (or not) those who are known to have denounced their team early on have not responded. That's in itself is an admission of guilt. Some really do feel they lost value as a fan, that they were not really able to celebrate the win as they wish they could have. Some have used a facade of celebration to mask the obvious truth; that they quit right before the payoff. Some are still in denial that they ever quit in the first place even though the evidence can be found on this forum quite easily.

    It must suck. I cannot imagine it.

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