Thanks, Blake
Romney is doing okay and Perry skipped around the issue of uninsured in Texas. Bachman is just "Obamacare" over and over again. She'll be the next one to drop out.
8:25 P.M. |Prepared for the attacks.That didn't take long.
Thanks to NBC's Brian Williams, it took only moments for Mitt Romney and Rick Perry to clash over their job creation records while serving as governors.
The task before both men: find a memorable way to get their campaign message across. And boy were they prepared. Within moments, the retorts were flying.
Mr. Romney noted that Texas has economic advantages like no income tax and a right-to-work law. "Governor Perry doesn't believe that he created those things," Mr. Romney said. "If he did, it would be like Al Gore saying he created the Internet."
Mr. Perry quickly shot back: "Michael Dukakis created created jobs three times faster than you did," he said.
The lines are memorable, and could help both men underline their arguments. Mr. Romney wants to put the focus on his experience in the private sector. Mr. Perry wants to undercut Mr. Romney's experience as a Massachusetts governor.
Mr. Williams noted: "Nice to see everyone came prepared for tonight's conversation."
--Michael D. Shear
Romney has come out the best so far and kissing Perry's ass to end things will endear him to the Tea Party crowd. He's really come through unfazed and gaffe free. Perry has been dancing around stuff with rhetoric and has constantly had a "gotta take a " smile throughout as his record has been discussed. Unfortunately for Paul he's come out looking like the crazy uncle on the stage.
Did Bachman promise 2 bucks a gallon or just say she'd like to get it to that price?
Otherwise these ass s are an oil pig companies dream come true.
All the babble about job creation from drilling everywhere including your grandmas ass. Yet not a peep about the spill history.
Classic.
@ crazy uncle
It's too bad he comes off so nuts. Most of the time, he has a good message under there.
I think Cain has been strong in this debate because he always has specifics on a plan to fix things rather just fluff. Perry is swarmy (not unusual) while Romney has been good.
Andto Bachmann - I can't stand her..
I dont think crazy Bachmann has answered one single question shes been asked...
I love the crazy uncle thing. I told my husband he came across as the "old, crochety guy", but I like crazy uncle better.
Also, I loved it when Icky Ricky called Ebay "the Ebay" hahaha
IMO the token black guy and the guy all the way on the right have the best takes. Too bad nobody knows who they are.
Paul also means well, but he does look like an old crazy uncle.
Perry, Bachman and Gingrich
also too bad Romney, who seems to be the leader there, looks like GOP version of Kerry, Frankenstein. Unfortunately the US president has to walk in public
GOP = ed
Rick also tried to be cool and give someone "props" but pronounced it "propes."
IMO the token black guy and the guy all the way on the right have the best takes. Too bad nobody knows who they are.
Paul also means well, but he does look like an old crazy uncle.
also too bad Romney, who seems to be the leader there, looks like GOP version of Kerry, Frankenstein. Unfortunately the US president has to walk in public
Oh, and the "token black guy" is Cain. Big proponent of flat tax/elimination of IRS.
Did Manny get a golden shower from Mouse?
It's unfortunate because I like Paul. I'm not sure if he had nerves or what but I've seen him much better spoken and more coherent than tonight. He was just all over the place and stammering like a MF. He really did remind me of one of my drunk relatives trying to tell a story.
It's too bad he comes off so nuts. Most of the time, he has a good message under there.
I think Cain has been strong in this debate because he always has specifics on a plan to fix things rather just fluff. Perry is swarmy (not unusual) while Romney has been good.
And
Cain definitely had a strong showing tonight and I also noticed he tried giving specifics rather than rhetoric.
Bachmann would maybe start to answer a question...but then quickly retreat to bashing Obama and done...she done ed herself...and has faded into the background now...
Romney looked good. I liked what I heard from him. I like Cain and Huntsman as well. Too bad they didn't get asked more questions. Both those guys are probably better suited to being vice presidents. I can see Romney eventually going with Cain as VP because of the Tea Party and potential black vote.
All in all, it was the funniest debate I've ever watched. I should have made popcorn. Oh well, live & learn.
Romney was the winner tonight. Cain did well also but it won't help in much.
Perry didn't do great but didn't tank either. He demonstrated his political skill by giving decent answers while completely avoiding the question. Decent showing for his first debate, he will improve over the course of the next 8000 scheduled primary debates.
Paul was off his meds tonight.
what a bagHARRIS: Governor Perry -- Governor Perry, Governor Huntsman were not specific about names, but the two of you do have a difference of opinion about climate change. Just recently in New Hampshire, you said that weekly and even daily scientists are coming forward to question the idea that human activity is behind climate change. Which scientists have you found most credible on this subject?
PERRY: Well, I do agree that there is -- the science is -- is not settled on this. The idea that we would put Americans' economy at -- at-- at jeopardy based on scientific theory that's not settled yet, to me, is just -- is nonsense. I mean, it -- I mean -- and I tell somebody, I said, just because you have a group of scientists that have stood up and said here is the fact, Galileo got outvoted for a spell.
But the fact is, to put America's economic future in jeopardy, asking us to cut back in areas that would have monstrous economic impact on this country is not good economics and I will suggest to you is not necessarily good science. Find out what the science truly is before you start putting the American economy in jeopardy.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/r...030338826.html
538 By NATE SILVER
Electability a Primary Liability for Perry
Mr. Perry led the Republican field on each of the measures. But his lead was actually larger on the electability question: 30 percent of Republican voters said they thought he had the best chance of defeating Mr. Obama, versus 20 percent for Mr. Romney. By contrast, Mr. Perry held a smaller, 6-point lead over Mr. Romney on the question of his issue positioning.
This perception stands in contrast to the views of Republican elites, about 70 percent of whom think that Mr. Romney is the more electable nominee, according to a survey conducted by the National Journal.
Mr. Perry’s problems on Wednesday night, however, were of his own making: he was strong when engaging the other candidates, but weak on handling questions from the moderators. Unless he develops a stronger defense of his positions on Social Security, he will make Mr. Romney’s job much easier.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...tabilty&st=cse
Perry is the VRWC's dream guy: the lower 95%, the environment, destroy government at all levels, continue to protect/enrich UCA and wealthy. Romney isn't much different, just less aggressive.
Well, it was mighty white of them to get the to ask the immigration question.
Nice touch :golfclap
More trashing of Jimmy Ricky's bogus TX miracle:
Perry Blamed Feds For Texas’ High Uninsurance Rate, Here Are The Real Reasons 26 Percent Don’t Have Coverage
ky on Sep 8, 2011 at 9:04 am
Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) blamed the federal government for his state’s high uninsurance rate during last night’s presidential debate at the Ronald Reagan library, arguing that the Department of Health and Human Services has refused to grant Medicaid flexibility to the state:
HARRIS: Governor, quick follow-up. Why are so many people in Texas uninsured?
PERRY: Well, bottom line is that we would not have that many people uninsured in the state of Texas if you didn’t have the federal government. We’ve had requests in for years at the Health and Human Services agencies to have that type of flexibility where we could have menus, where we could have co-pays, and the federal government refuses to give us that flexibility.
As much as Perry would like to shift the blame for his state’s high uninsurance rate —
in fact, the number of uninsured has increased by approximately 2 million during his 11-year tenure —
26 percent of Texans don’t have access to health care coverage for four simple reasons:
1) many Texas jobs are low wage and don’t offer insurance,
2) Texas has some of the most restrictive Medicaid eligibility rules in the country,
3) insurance rates are largely unregulated (and are higher than the national average)
and
4) the state has a large immigrant population that often can’t enroll because of legal concerns or other impediments.
Perry himself hasn’t focused on the health care access problem during his governorship, despite advocating for significant reductions in the Medicaid program — including an 8 percent cut in reimbursement rates to hospitals in the latest state budget.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011...-real-reasons/
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Jimmy Ricky's whole campaign schtick is rotten with distortions, coverups, lies.
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