OWS vs. Tea Party compared

[ElNono]

lol not enough information
lol cop already had a history of power trips

And at "hopefully they investigate" after saying it was clear the cop acted appropriately. What's there to investigate, then?

[CuckingFunt]

The Tea Party movement is for one thing...a return to limited government.

A return to limited government is hardly one thing.

[Agloco]

The barrier was moving the whole time. There just isn't enough information in the video to make a claim either way.

lol disproportionate reaction

I hope they investigate and, if it is determine the officer acted inappropriately, he should be disciplined.

You're shoveling a steaming pile here Yoni.

[CuckingFunt]

Nope. The Tea Party's message was pretty succinct from the beginning.



Government is the problem and it needs to be reigned back in to its cons utional limits.

And, similarly, "government is the problem" is neither succinct nor particularly focused.

[CosmicCowboy]

I think we can all agree that our politicians and Wall street money are joined at the hip and there is enough anger to go around for both. The movements are more similar than different.

[ElNono]

I think we can all agree that our politicians and Wall street money are joined at the hip and there is enough anger to go around for both. The movements are more similar than different.

Agreed. They simply focus on different parts of the same problem. The corruptor and the corrupted.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I disagree.

The "Occupy Wall Street" crowd, while being increasingly co-opted by Democrats, is increasingly being revealed as a "grass roots movement" fostered by traditional leftists such as George Soros, Moveon.org, various unions and communist organizations. They been caught paying protesters and offering to pay legal fees for those that violate the law.

Yet, they don't have a coherent message beyond, "we're mad because, well, we've been told we're mad."

The Tea Party, on the other hand, has had a coherent, singular message since it authentic grass roots inception. "Government is bloated and the cause of all our ills; let's return to the limited government our founders envisioned."

Their protests and assemblies have been, with a few outliers at various Tea Party functions, respectful and organized. They usually leave the space they occupy better than they found it and they don't hang out for days, stinking up the real estate, pretending to actually be accomplishing something of import.

Its like I am reading one of Anne Coulter's books....

[Yonivore]

Its like I am reading one of Anne Coulter's books....

I'm not offended.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not offended.

But you left out the part of the Jacobin mob. I am disappointed.

[Yonivore]

But you left out the part of the Jacobin mob. I am disappointed.

Sorry to disappoint.

[Wild Cobra]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...reet-tea-party

The Tea Party, under one name or another, has actually been part of American politics for a long time. It is a movement that yearns for the restoration of an imaginary past, when the world was simple, men were men, women were women, leaders were white males, when the church steeple reigned over little towns and, aside from vaudeville, minorities had no public presence. Consistently, the Tea Party sympathisers in American politics today are almost all white, and they are better-off and older than the general population. That is why they chant "Take it back! Take it back! Take it back!" at their rallies. And their politics of hazy nostalgia is also why they are eagerly supported by rightwing business leaders.

By contrast, the Occupy Wall Street people are mainly young, racially diverse, happily countercultural and, above all, eagerly inclusive. And contrary to early media reports, they are thoughtful and well-informed. Where Tea Partiers chanted confused slogans like "Get government's hands off my Medicare!", the Occupy Wall Street protesters issue well thought-out proclamations about a future defined by cooperation and a democracy freed from the clutches of economic oligarchy.

LOL...

How stupid can an article get?

[Wild Cobra]

Also I'm curious to hear what any TEA (Taxed Enough Already) party thinks about companies such as General Electric paying 0% taxes and receiving millions in corporate welfare. Should we lower taxes on them some more?

Asked and answered.

See past threads.

[Th'Pusher]

I'm not offended.

LOL at pedaling hyper-conservitive piffle in an effort to garner attention from anonymous strangers on the internet. At least Coulter gets paid. It's not as if she actually believes half the she spews.

[Wild Cobra]

Innocent people getting pepper sprayed is. Guess you didn't know what really happened, did you? Look at how ignorant you are.

Innocent?

They are guilty of holding up traffic. They are not following rules. They are stopping the free movement of others.

them. Pepper spray is not lethal and solves the problem.

[Wild Cobra]

Torture them!

If Pepper Spry is torture, then I'm with ya.

[Wild Cobra]

I posted two different videos...just want to confirm you have watched the second video with freeze-frames and arrows.

Well, I am catching up, just started this thread about 10 minuts ago, maybe.

I didn't watch the second. i believe pepper sprat was used. they crossed the zone outside of the legal protest bounds.

What if you were a salesman, having to make a meeting and lost a sales commission or something because the crowd made you late? How would you feel? What if you were late for work, and in this economy, all your boss needed to fire you?

The cons ution and bill of rights does not allow for one person to take away the rights of others free movement.

[Wild Cobra]

Taxed Enough Already. They started with a coherent message whether you agree with it or not.

pretty sure thats not why they are called the Tea Party

Maybe not the current incantation, but I'll bet if you asked Lars Larson about his organized Tea Party Protest in front of the Salem, Oregon Capital building years before the national Tea Party movement, he would say he used those words. I'm pretty sure he did.

[ElNono]

If Pepper Spry is torture, then I'm with ya.

Why stop at pepper spray when you can waterboard them!

[Nbadan]

Teabaggers vs Occupy Wall Street

[SnakeBoy]

pretty sure thats not why they are called the Tea Party

I don't know the origin of their name but they have been using the "Tax Enough Already" slogan since the beginning. I remember they were carrying these signs before the movement really took off because everytime I saw the slogan I thought "but you're paying the lowest tax rates in history".


It really is pointless to compare messages though. All that matters with any movement is if they have the ability to influence change. Very early on the TEA party took the approach of getting involved in the GOP primaries to get their kind of candidates elected. I don't see that kind of organization happening with the OWS fools. They'll hang out for awhile, get high, piss and all over the place, and then that will be the end of it.

[Wild Cobra]

Teabaggers vs Occupy Wall Street

LOL. Finally watched this. This Chris Hedges just doesn't understand, and is making things up about the Tea Party thinking.

Is that you Dan?

[Agloco]

I think we can all agree that our politicians and Wall street money are joined at the hip and there is enough anger to go around for both. The movements are more similar than different.

[Agloco]

If Pepper Spry is torture, then I'm with ya.

Ever been pepper sprayed?

[Yonivore]

Ever been pepper sprayed?

Yep. It's not torture. It's painful but, it's not torture.

[boutons_deux]

If pepper spray/mace were applied repeatedly to extract information, it's torture.