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    I didn't see your post and I didn't ignore Fuzzy's

    I'll tell you both; again.

    I could care less if you stay or go.
    So you're saying you care?

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    I'm not taking up a shield for Sharpton. How am I responsible for him, Yoni?

    You're derailing your own thread, dude.

    (shrugs)
    You suggested I believed there was no bigotry in America.

    I just pointed out one.

    You're the one derailing the thread. So, speak to the issues. Why is Herman Cain wrong in suggesting blacks have been brainwashed by liberals to stay on the Democrat plantation?

    Democrats would not have passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In fact, Republicans had to vote to break a Democrat filibuster of the bill.

    Democrats would not have passed the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

    Democrats have been the biggest enemy of blacks since the founding of this country. Keeping them dependent on government handouts and yanking their chains to the voting booth every time Conservatives make noise about reigning in the profligate spending on social programs, is just the latest way to keep them on the plantation.

    From 2008

    The Democrats' Missing History

    As Democrats prepare to nominate Sen. Barack Obama to be the first black president, the Democratic National Committee and its chairman, Howard Dean, have whitewashed the party's horrific and lengthy record of racism. The omission is in the section of the DNC Web site that describes the party's history. The missing history raises the obvious question of whether the Democrats, unable or simply unwilling to put their party on record as taking direct responsibility for one of the worst racial crimes of the ages, will be able to run a campaign free of the racial animosities it has regularly brought both to American presidential campaigns and American political and social life in general.

    [Well, we know how that turned out, don't we?]

    What else to make of the official party history as presented by the DNC on its Web site? It is a history so sanitized of historical reality it makes Stalin look like David McCullough.

    The DNC Web site section labeled "Party History," linked here, is in fact scrubbed clean of the not-so-little dirty secret that fueled Democrats' political successes for over a century and a half and made American life a on earth for black Americans. Literally, the DNC official history, which begins with the creation of the party in 1800, gets to the creation of the DNC itself in 1848 and then--poof!--the next sentence says: "As the 19th Century came to a close, the American electorate changed more and more rapidly." It quickly heads into a riff on poor immigrants coming to America.

    In a stroke, 52 years of Democratic history vanishes. Disappeared faster than the truth in the Clinton administration. Why would this be? Allow me to sketch in a few facts from those missing 52 years. For that matter, lets add in the facts from the party history before and after those 52 years, since they aren't mentioned by the Democrats' National Committee either.

    So what's missing?

    There is no reference to the number of Democratic Party platforms supporting slavery. There were six from 1840 through 1860.

    There is no reference to the number of Democratic presidents who owned slaves. There were seven from 1800 through 1861

    There is no reference to the number of Democratic Party platforms that either supported segregation outright or were silent on the subject. There were 20, from 1868 through 1948.

    There is no reference to "Jim Crow" as in "Jim Crow laws," nor is there reference to the role Democrats played in creating them. These were the post-Civil War laws passed enthusiastically by Democrats in that pesky 52-year part of the DNC's missing years. These laws segregated public schools, public transportation, restaurants, rest rooms and public places in general (everything from water coolers to beaches). The reason Rosa Parks became famous is that she sat in the "whites only" front section of a bus, the "whites only" designation the direct result of Democrats.

    There is no reference to the formation of the Ku Klux Klan, which, according to Columbia University historian Eric Foner, became "a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party." Nor is there reference to University of North Carolina historian Allen Trelease's description of the Klan as the "terrorist arm of the Democratic Party."

    There is no reference to the fact Democrats opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Cons ution. The 13th banned slavery. The 14th effectively overturned the infamous 1857 Dred Scott decision (made by Democratic pro-slavery Supreme Court justices) by guaranteeing due process and equal protection to former slaves. The 15th gave black Americans the right to vote.

    There is no reference to the fact that Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1866. It was passed by the Republican Congress over the veto of President Andrew Johnson, who had been a Democrat before joining Lincoln's ticket in 1864. The law was designed to provide blacks with the right to own private property, sign contracts, sue and serve as witnesses in a legal proceeding.

    There is no reference to the Democrats' opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1875. It was passed by a Republican Congress and signed into law by President Ulysses Grant. The law prohibited racial discrimination in public places and public accommodations.

    There is no reference to the Democrats' 1904 platform, which devotes a section to "Sectional and Racial Agitation," claiming the GOP's protests against segregation and the denial of voting rights to blacks sought to "revive the dead and hateful race and sectional animosities in any part of our common country," which in turn "means confusion, distraction of business, and the reopening of wounds now happily healed."

    There is no reference to four Democratic platforms, 1908-20, that are silent on blacks, segregation, lynching and voting rights as racial problems in the country mount. By contrast the GOP platforms of those years specifically address "Rights of the Negro" (1908), oppose lynching (in 1912, 1920, 1924, 1928) and, as the New Deal kicks in, speak out about the dangers of making blacks "wards of the state."

    There is no reference to the Democratic Convention of 1924, known to history as the "Klanbake." The 103-ballot convention was held in Madison Square Garden. Hundreds of delegates were members of the Ku Klux Klan, the Klan so powerful that a plank condemning Klan violence was defeated outright. To celebrate, the Klan staged a rally with 10,000 hooded Klansmen in a field in New Jersey directly across the Hudson from the site of the convention. Attended by hundreds of cheering convention delegates, the rally featured burning crosses and calls for violence against African-Americans and Catholics.

    There is no reference to the fact that it was Democrats who segregated the federal government, at the direction of President Woodrow Wilson upon taking office in 1913. There is a reference to the fact that President Harry Truman integrated the military after World War II.

    There is reference to the fact that Democrats created the Federal Reserve Board, passed labor and child welfare laws, and created Social Security with Wilson's New Freedom and FDR's New Deal. There is no mention that these programs were created as the result of an agreement to ignore segregation and the lynching of blacks. Neither is there a reference to the thousands of local officials, state legislators, state governors, U.S. congressmen and U.S. senators who were elected as supporters of slavery and then segregation between 1800 and 1965. Nor is there reference to the deal with the devil that left segregation and lynching as a way of life in return for election support for three post-Civil War Democratic presidents, Grover Cleveland, Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt.

    There is no reference that three-fourths of the opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Bill in the U.S. House came from Democrats, or that 80% of the "nay" vote in the Senate came from Democrats. Certainly there is no reference to the fact that the opposition included future Democratic Senate leader Robert Byrd of West Virginia (a former Klan member) and Tennessee Senator Albert Gore Sr., father of Vice President Al Gore.

    Last but certainly not least, there is no reference to the fact that Birmingham, Ala., Public Safety Commissioner Bull Connor, who infamously unleashed dogs and fire hoses on civil rights protestors, was in fact--yes indeed--a member of both the Democratic National Committee and the Ku Klux Klan.

    Reading the DNC's official "Party History" of the Democrats and the race issue and civil rights is not unlike reading "In Through the Looking Glass": " 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less.' "

    Here's this line from the DNC: "With the election of Harry Truman, Democrats began the fight to bring down the final barriers of race . . ." Truman, of course, was elected in 1948, and to his great credit he did in fact, along with then-Minneapolis Mayor Hubert Humphrey, begin to push the Democrats towards a pro-civil-rights stance. This culminated in the passage of the 1960s civil rights laws--legislation that redid what had been done by Republicans a hundred years earlier but undone by the Democrats' support for segregation. But the notion that "Democrats began to bring down the final barriers of race" raises the obvious questions. What were these barriers doing there in the first place? And who exactly was responsible for creating them?

    * * *

    AS IF TO CONFIRM the "Who, me?" racial psychology behind the DNC Web site, Nancy Pelosi's Democrats passed a House resolution on July 29 sponsored by Tennessee Democrat Steve Cohen. The resolution, passed by voice vote, concludes this way:

    Resolved, That the House of Representatives--

    (1) acknowledges that slavery is incompatible with the basic founding principles recognized in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal;

    (2) acknowledges the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow;

    (3) apologizes to African Americans on behalf of the people of the United States, for the wrongs committed against them and their ancestors who suffered under slavery and Jim Crow; and

    (4) expresses its commitment to rectify the lingering consequences of the misdeeds committed against African Americans under slavery and Jim Crow and to stop the occurrence of human rights violations in the future.
    What word is missing here?
    You got it. The word "Democrat." Never mentioned anywhere. As with the DNC website, all these terrible things--somehow, apparently, it seems, so they keep hearing--happened. Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Cohen and their fellow House Democrats just can't understand how. But, you know, whatever. They are sorry. Really.

    Are they? Let's take them up on this.

    After all those Democratic platforms and conventions that championed slavery and segregation, what do you think the chances are they will use the occasion of Mr. Obama's nomination to have the Democratic platform formally apologize for the active, frequently violent and decidedly official support of the Democratic Party for slavery, segregation, lynching, the Ku Klux Klan and all the rest?

    Better yet, do you think they'll pass a resolution promising to use the funds raised from all those Jefferson-Jackson Day fundraisers to pay reparations for slavery? (Did I mention that while the DNC discusses party co-founders Jefferson and Jackson, it neglects to mention that between them the two owned an estimated 360 slaves?)

    Will the NAACP and other groups seeking reparations from nongovernment en ies for their role in supporting slavery (companies like Aetna, Wachovia and Chase along with educational ins utions like Brown University) finally zero in on the prime historical mover behind some of the worst chapters in American history? Will they sue the Democrats?

    The Democrats are poised to nominate a black man for president of the United States. But will they apologize for slavery? Will they start paying reparations not from tax dollars but their own dollars for what they have done?

    Do they have the guts to publicly admit what serious history records of their deeds? Are they capable of running a campaign without playing the race card as they have played it for the better part of two centuries? Can they even escape the race psychology that has indelibly branded them as America's Party of Race?

    Or, when it comes to their own responsibility for race relations in America, will they order up more of what, under the cir stances, is a very appropriate word for the DNC website?

    Whitewash.

    Mr. Lord is creator, co-founder and CEO of , a conservative video site. A Reagan White House political director and author, he writes from Pennsylvania.
    Democrats! The real racists.

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    So you're saying you care?
    Couldn't care less. But, in the other construct, if I could, it wouldn't be much.

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    You're the one derailing the thread. So, speak to the issues. Why is Herman Cain wrong in suggesting blacks have been brainwashed by liberals to stay on the Democrat plantation?
    Blacks have been brainwashed. Go on...

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    Blacks have been brainwashed. Go on...
    lol

    yoni doesn't realize the implications of his parroting.

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    Blacks have been brainwashed. Go on...
    Just did, at length.

    What else would explain their devotion to the Democrat Party? The party of slavery. The party of Bull Conner. The party of the Ku Klux Klan. The party of Jim Crow. The party that filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The party that provided 80% of the nae votes on the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

    What did the Republican Party ever do to drive 95% of a race to vote for the same party, election after election after election?

    Just curious.

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    What did the Republican Party ever do to drive 95% of a race to vote for the same party, election after election after election?
    There must be some dreadful misunderstanding. There aren't any racists in the GOP.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 10-11-2011 at 06:46 PM.

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    There must be some dreadful misunderstanding.

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    Just did, at length.

    What else would explain their devotion to the Democrat Party? The party of slavery. The party of Bull Conner. The party of the Ku Klux Klan. The party of Jim Crow. The party that filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The party that provided 80% of the nae votes on the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

    What did the Republican Party ever do to drive 95% of a race to vote for the same party, election after election after election?

    Just curious.
    They took in most of the Democrats that filibustered and voted against the Civil Rights Acts and adopted their platform on race.

    You're really incredibly stupid.

    Must be brainwashed.

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    The GOP is also the party of the underdog par excellence, but the damn class warriors go around impugning its good name, so that no one is ever the wiser to its tender, humanitarian exploits.

    (More brainwashing.)

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    The GOP is also the party of the underdog par excellence, but the damn class warriors go around impugning its good name, so that no one is ever the wiser to its tender, humanitarian exploits.

    (More brainwashing.)
    Republicans are the party for equality of opportunity. Nobody, underdog or not, should get an unfair advantage.

    You just can't bring yourself to recognize the Democrats are and have always been the racist party in this country.

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    There must be some dreadful misunderstanding. There aren't any racists in the GOP.
    No more than there are in the Democrat Party. In fact, probably significantly fewer.

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    The only racism left in America is reverse racism.

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    You just can't bring yourself to recognize the Democrats are and have always been the racist party in this country.
    Sure I can. My eyes are open.

    Republicans used to be antiracist. They aren't anymore. You can't face that.

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    Sure I can. My eyes are open.
    Then I would vomit to be associated with the Democrat Party.

    Republicans used to be antiracist. They aren't anymore. You can't face that.
    Sure they are. Nothing's changed. They're opposed to racism today, as they were in the beginning. They're opposed to racist preferences in hiring and college admissions. They favor a completely color-blind government.

    Republicans are still the anti-racist party.

    Where are the favoring or where do they condone racism against blacks or any other race?

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    Then I would vomit to be associated with the Democrat Party.
    Whereas I find both major parties pretty revolting. That's a major difference between us.
    They're opposed to racism today, as they were in the beginning. They're opposed to racist preferences in hiring and college admissions. They favor a completely color-blind government.
    Back when policies were so colorblind, minorities were invisible. We should go back to that.
    Where are the favoring or where do they condone racism against blacks or any other race?
    Never, to my knowledge. Only an insidiously mendacious and powerful MSM could account for the stubborn persistence of rumors to the contrary.

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    Maybe we should ask a black surgeon what he thinks about it...

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    "Cracker for Cain" isn't racist either. He's just a white dude congratulating himself for being okay with the prospect of a black President.

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    "Cracker for Cain" isn't racist either. He's just a white dude congratulating himself for being okay with the prospect of a black President.
    If a black person calling themselves ###### isn't racist, why would calling myself cracker be?

    I'm actually more than okay. Herman Cain is my pick...not because I'm okay "with the prospect of a black President" but, because he's qualified, he's successful, he has a specific economic plan I think will work, and he's the most positive candidate on either side of the debate..

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    Never, to my knowledge. Only an insidiously mendacious and powerful MSM could account for the stubborn persistence of rumors to the contrary.
    More like a lying Democrat Party with a complicit media.

    Did you happen to read the history of the Democrat party, posted earlier, they conveniently omit from their website.

    How any black person, knowing the history of the party they continue to vote into office, election after election, could not be "brain washed," is beyond me.

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    I get the feeling that if the cable went out at Yoni's house, he wouldn't know what to think.

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    I get the feeling that if the cable went out at Yoni's house, he wouldn't know what to think.
    So, you've got nothing, either?

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    How any black person, knowing the history of the party they continue to vote into office, election after election, could not be "brain washed," is beyond me.
    Obviously.

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    So, you've got nothing, either?
    Nothing

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    Pop quiz moment. Who said this:

    "We have lost sight of the historic, integral link between the party and African-Americans," Steele said. "This party was co-founded by blacks, among them Frederick Douglass. The Republican Party had a hand in forming the NAACP, and yet we have mistreated that relationship. People don't walk away from parties. Their parties walk away from them.

    "For the last 40-plus years we had a 'Southern Strategy' that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, 'Bubba' went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton."

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