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    RJ+Blair+2012 first round pick for Kaman. Do it.

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    RJ+Blair+2012 first round pick for Kaman. Do it.
    givin up alot for kaman....

    centers will be in demand this FA...

    the warriors are shopping ellis for rudy gay....

    i want rudy or dorell wright (has improve alot)

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    The Sac trade has been discussed last season, all I did was cut and past, matters not who would be fill in for Beno...The point is SA would get rid of RJ, while picking up a very good big that is getting lost in the Sac remake.

    Dude one of my short and curleys has more BBall info than you so STFU.

    If SA is looking at Battier and Butler right off the bat, and they know they need a big, a trade attempt will be made to improve the front court.....as I said days ago and TP just confirmed.

    Lots of trades have been discussed that I like that would give us front court help......we will see what happens.
    Everyone on here has been talking about the Spurs trading for a big.

    lol deflecting to try to cover up the fact that you have been full of since you started posting here.

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    The Sac trade has been discussed last season, all I did was cut and past, matters not who would be fill in for Beno...The point is SA would get rid of RJ, while picking up a very good big that is getting lost in the Sac remake.

    Dude one of my short and curleys has more BBall info than you so STFU.

    If SA is looking at Battier and Butler right off the bat, and they know they need a big, a trade attempt will be made to improve the front court.....as I said days ago and TP just confirmed.

    Lots of trades have been discussed that I like that would give us front court help......we will see what happens.

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    Meh. The Spurs name are always used when the agents are fishing for a new contract.

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    Well, playing Splitter and Duncan together currently means that Bonner and Blair need to sub in for them. And that combo is a defensive nightmare. Therefore you need another big PF/C, otherwise TD and Splitter can only stay on the court together for very limited minutes.
    Bonner and Blair don't have to sub in for them at the same time. Clearly there needs to be a Dice replacement found, but Duncan and Splitter can play minutes together and one or the other can be on the floor during virtually the entire game.

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    This 5th big really is necessary, otherwise Tiago had to play heavy minutes to make your calculation work as I expect Timmy to only play 26-28 minutes per game.

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    RJ+Blair+2012 first round pick for Kaman. Do it.
    Kaman is a huge expiring, so you're going to have to do way better than that.

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    Kaman is a huge expiring, so you're going to have to do way better than that.
    agreed..Kaman's expiring contract is the Clippers ace in the hole: you get a 29 year old above average 7 footer, 12+ mil exp. contract, and a chance to keep him long term with an extension. This contract is being saved for the big dogs available for trade, not the spurs I am sorry to say...

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    This 5th big really is necessary, otherwise Tiago had to play heavy minutes to make your calculation work as I expect Timmy to only play 26-28 minutes per game.
    I actually believe Duncan play more minutes if you start him with splitter. Simply because he doesn't have to multi-task. Spurs have him trying to protect the lane and defend 2 big guys at the same time. With Splitter his load is reduced 50% i'd say.

    Teams like to involve duncan in PnR's so that he is out of the paint ( cause blair, bonner sad to say even dice to extent are there and they really dont have height or length to protect the paint). With Splitter if Duncan is out the paint, splitter can rotate over and pull and oberto by taking a charge or simply put his arms straight up for a clean effective contest.

    Also Splitters footwork on D is pretty good allowing to stay in front of most 4's and not need an immense amount of help from Tim. That tandem helps them on offense to. While it doesn't space the floor for TP, it provides low-post scoring which is better then your point guard running around.

    Duncan can't get 20pts in the low-block like before, but maybe 12 from him and 8 from splitter will get the job done. Its going to require that Parker sacrifice some shots and make a legit effort to throw the ball down there.

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    I actually believe Duncan play more minutes if you start him with splitter. Simply because he doesn't have to multi-task. Spurs have him trying to protect the lane and defend 2 big guys at the same time. With Splitter his load is reduced 50% i'd say.
    If TD is on the court, he works his ass off. If he saves some energy due to Splitters help on defense he might use it in other ways. Therefore Pop will further limit TDs minutes in the regular season.

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    If TD is on the court, he works his ass off. If he saves some energy due to Splitters help on defense he might use it in other ways. Therefore Pop will further limit TDs minutes in the regular season.
    Other ways as in scoring on the low-block im hoping. This drive and kick nonsense is killing me. Pop needs to establish something on the block with him and Splitter.

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    NBA free-agent buzz: Butler eyes Clips, Bulls
    Caron Butler, one of the most pursued small forwards in this year’s free-agent class, privately considers the Los Angeles Clippers and Chicago Bulls as his two most preferred destinations, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

    Butler is most attracted to the Bulls because of the chance to play with Derrick Rose and compete for a le, but he would have to take significantly less money to play in Chicago. The Bulls have a stronger need for a shooting guard and could ultimately spend their money there. Ultimately, that leaves the Clippers with an edge over the New Jersey Nets among the suitors with the most significant cap space and a need for a starting small forward.
    “He sees the Clippers with a more stable foundation of players,” one source familiar with Butler’s thinking said. “He isn’t sure about Deron Williams’ future in New Jersey, and having a chance to win will be a big part of this.”

    Butler played only 29 games in the Dallas Mavericks’ le run a season ago, missing the remainder with a right knee injury. At 31 years old, he’s checked out healthy again and remains a primary target for several teams looking for a small forward.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl..._agency_113011

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    I like Kaman well enough, but I've soured on him enough to know there is no way in I trade a first round pick for him.

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    Kaman lacks focus, is injury prone and would be a poor fit next to Duncan, because he's a plodder and he can't guard power forwards. The only center that might start next to Duncan is Splitter and if he does, it'll be because they couldn't acquire a starting power forward and won't have another starting caliber big on the roster. In other words, it'll be by default.

    Unless they can somehow pull off a trade for Jefferson, I think they'll pursue athleticism/mobility more than size/strength inside.

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    kaman the savior

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    I know we need a big man. I know a Tiago/Tim combo has it's issues. But I'm telling you that as long as Tim holds up and Tiago adjusts some to the game, the Spurs with that combo will be much better off. The defense will dramatically improve and even with the Spacing issues, I think they will be fine. TP/Manu ensure that.

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    I will laugh so hard when the Clips use Kaman as the primary piece to land Dwight.

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    Kaman will not be the primary piece. If it doesn't include Gordon or Griffin, IMO Clips have no shot at Dwight.

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    I know we need a big man. I know a Tiago/Tim combo has it's issues. But I'm telling you that as long as Tim holds up and Tiago adjusts some to the game, the Spurs with that combo will be much better off. The defense will dramatically improve and even with the Spacing issues, I think they will be fine. TP/Manu ensure that.
    The Spurs need a big man, not so much to avoid playing Duncan/Splitter together, but to avoid playing Bonner/Blair together. Even with the inevitable mixing and matching (by which I mean, playing Duncan/Bonner together and small ball; can't see playing Splitter/Blair together, unless one has developed at least a semi-reliable mid range jumper), playing Duncan/Splitter together would mean Bonner/Blair would play plenty together, because Duncan is unlikely to exceed 30 mpg and Splitter 25 mpg. And whatever good Duncan/Splitter provided defensively, Bonner/Blair would ruin.

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    I donīt think the Clips have to offer Griffin or Gordon to land Howard.

    If they get one the Magic bad contracts (Hedo or Arenas) and give the Magic the 1st from Minny, a future Clips 1st, Bledsoe, Aminu and Kaman's expiring, there isn't a team that can offer a better package (OKC maybe if they're willing to let Westbrook go)

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    That trade doesn't even come close to working salary wise.

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    That trade doesn't even come close to working salary wise.
    Clips have a ton of cap space. Depending on the exact amount, it would work or come close. They would probably have to let Jordan walk or add him as an S&T to the deal.

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    Why would anyone want RJ? They already didn't want him before the draft. We have no realistic trade assets. Tiago is our second best big, and unless a miracle happens, will still be our second best big when the season starts. In other words, deal with it.

    We're basically in rebuilding mode already. Might as well develop what players we have. Holt is not likely to break the bank to bring in some savior, who most likely doesn't even want to play for Holt. I wish they could put a great player next to Tim on the block for his last season but it doesn't seem likely.

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    That trade doesn't even come close to working salary wise.
    The old CBA doesn't really apply anymore, does it?

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