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Getting Paul is fine, but only as long as D12 comes too...that's all I'm saying.
I'm just not crazy about PG's...recent history (last 20 years) shows you don't need one.
Core of Bynum-Odom-Bryant-Paul isn't bad at all.
and lol at thinking Bynum won't be improved if Lakers acquire Paul.
You guys have become so enraptured with acquiring Dwight, you've become somewhat oblivious to what CP3 can do for you.
Getting Paul is fine, but only as long as D12 comes too...that's all I'm saying.
I'm just not crazy about PG's...recent history (last 20 years) shows you don't need one.
Any trade leaving Bynum as the lone center is a disaster waiting to happen.
If you can bank on getting Howard, you pull the trigger. If not, wait.
...and for the record, I'd rather have the latter. Teaming one of the most skilled offensive big men with the reigning DPOY (who's also improving on offense) would be a nightmare for any team. Throw Kobe in there and it's not even fair, imo.
You never know what you'll get from Bynum and Odom. They are consistently inconsistent.
I would EASILY rather have Dwight/Pau/Kobe
If Lakers get a BS deal in favor of them. is stupid. especially from a organization owned by NBA itself.
Are you going to quit the NBA, or, demand a Congressional investigation like Sac fans did after that '02 playoff series?
tee, hee.
Of course that's the better core -- but Dwight being acquired by LA may not even happen, so Lakers run the risk of standing pat with the same team who got steam rolled last year.
The discrepancy between Dwight/Pau/Kobe versus Bynum/Odom/Kobe/CP3
isn't wide enough for me to risk the wait and pass on the Paul Deal.
+ Ace in the hole is if only Pau is going out in CP3 deal, you can still make the Dwight deal if it presents itself later.
steam rolled..smoked.. out the ass rolled.
Walton and one of our 2nd round draft picks for Paul
I agree but I was just commenting on the guy that said he'd choose one over the other.
This I agree with. I think the key is making sure to leave something left to acquire Howard.
BTW stupid ass NO if they do this. Other teams offering much better talent than HOU. Scola is decent and same w Kmart but neither do anything to change your now or future.
Bynum is statistically similar to Howard in every defensive advanced stat that matters.
Pau is obviously declining and has choked on his own feces whenever he has faced Dirk in the playoffs. This is going to change next season... because?
By that grand logic, you never know what you'll get from Pau Gasol. But you also know he's 7 years older than Bynum and mentally soft. Odom has consistently been the superior defender at the 4.
An aging Pau Gasol is more suited at center than he is PF. There is a reason Bynum was forced to defend the Amare and Bosh's as Pau's footspeed couldn't hack it. This will only get worse looking to the future. Going to play Pau 35 minutes a night at PF?He's going to get torched religiously and cry himself to sleep every night from the the constant Kobe scoldings. What happens when his balls go missing again and can't hit a jumper? Good teams don't need to double Dwight; would be the exact same result as last season: Kobe sees doubles and trips all game while Fisher/Blake stand around with thumbs up ass while being completely ignored.
People are completely underrating Chris Paul in this thread and acting like Howard was never shut down 1v1 against a fat turd like Kendric Perkins in the playoffs. Which could easily happen again while Westbrook averages an efficient 40 going against the worst PG defense in the NBA.
The reality is, Bynum/Odom/Kobe/Paul is not only a better defensive team (even more so if they can snag Ariza in the CP3 deal), they would be more dangerous offensively with CP3's ability to create, push the ball in transition and again, Bynum's contract can still be shopped in the summer if need be.
If you'd rather have CP3 than D12, I don't know what to tell you.
I really don't.
If you'd rather have Pau Gasol and less cap flexibility than CP3. I don't know what to tell you. I really don't.
Cp3 to the Lakers is more realistic than Dwight the Lakers. Paul is a goner no matter what. The city of Orlando isn't Cleveland, Ohio either. Dwight could very well end up staying.
A trio of CP3/Kobe/Bynum cannot beat Miami. Kobe/Pau/D12 can. At the end of the day, the goal is to win the NBA le, not just make it there, right?
CP3/Kobe/Ariza/Odom/Bynum could beat Miami. I've seen worse teams beat Miami.
The Lakers aren't making it there if Pau goes emo-mode and if Fisher or Blake are starting, which is basically a 50/50 possibility.
Reports are NOH want CP3 dealt before the season starts. It's now or probably never. You do the obvious no-brainer trade Pau for CP3/filler (hopefully Ariza) and you still have arguably the best front court in the West. Dwight: The Decision will probably last throughout the season.
CP3/Kobe/Bynum doesnt even get LA past OKC IMO.
Switching Paul out for Gasol leaves you a PG and a C with two shaky knees and doesnt really do much to address the Lakers lack of athleticism on the wings....
lol Kobe now needing both Paul/Dwight to drag his old ass to the 'ship.
Chris Paul on 'shaky' knees last playoffs: 22/12/7
What a horrifying thought.
We'll see...btw Memphis would have the best FC in the West if Pau was dealt (Gay, Gasol, Z-Bo). With Dallas losing Chandler, Butler, and likely Barea too, LA will almost assuredly make it to at least the WCF if they stand pat this offseason with their bigs. Ariza is also not guaranteed as the filler either, so if we don't get him then are we really better off with CP3 and a weakened FC?
That's my point, and where we disagree. I don't think Paul is the difference maker you're hoping for. D12 is that guy, imo.
well he did put that up against D-Fish
PG's sell shoes. Bigs win les.
Gay is a wing. His game is mostly perimeter. So no, Bynum/Odom > Chubby/Chubbier
Yes, the Lakers are better off since they would be much better defensively.. Gasol was a liability last playoffs and Odom/Bynum were the better defensive duo. If Ariza isn't in the deal then Okafor might be in.
No that isn't where we disagree. Try reading.
CP3 for Pau quite obviously improves the Lakers in the now and going forward. And they can still bid for Dwight so its a win/win.
No, we started disagreeing when you posted this stupid :Gay is a wing. His game is mostly perimeter. So no, Bynum/Odom > Chubby/Chubbier
Yes, the Lakers are better off since they would be much better defensively.. Gasol was a liability last playoffs and Odom/Bynum were the better defensive duo. If Ariza isn't in the deal then Okafor might be in.
No that isn't where we disagree. Try reading.
CP3 for Pau quite obviously improves the Lakers in the now and going forward. And they can still bid for Dwight so its a win/win.
I AGREE, GETTING BOTH WOULD BE NICE, but you're the one who said you'd rather get CP3 than D12.You give up significantly more for a marginal upgrade at center with Howard. You give up significantly less for swapping out the worst point guard in the NBA for the best by moving a dude that posted 13/6 on 42% shooting in the postseason
What has Bynum shown you in his injury-riddled, lazy, fat-ass career that proves he's ready to man the Lakers FC? Banking on Odom to consistently show up was also a good one
Oh, and the SF position is considered the front court.
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