It's over...

[Robz4000]

Yeah but Phil never coached a team who's owner had a lower net worth than it's star player.

Last I checked, Jerry Reinsdorf's net worth was half what MJ's was. In all seriousness though, I'm positive the FO really does think our front line is good enough, and seeks to blame other positions. I mean, what else justifies a Bonner/Blair combo on the floor after the abuse they took last year?

[rascal]

It's not that complicated. The Spurs have a core in the Big 3. You either spend money like a drunken sailor, and surround them with high quality support players (Lakers, Celtics, Mavs). Or you break up the Big 3, use the trads(s) to acquire some high quality pieces, and tank a season or two to acquire a special player from the draft. And, yeah, James Anderson might start during the tank season(s).

The half-life of not quite committing to either strategy is a recipe for disaster.

Agree the Spurs need to either go all in for a last le run this year or start the rebuild process by breaking up their top players( trades for draft picks and/or young players).

[Muser]

Why would the Spurs want the draft picks from OKC? They're going to be in the top 4 this year.

[spurs10]

That last statement could be the heart of the issue.

If they don't feel that way, I wonder what they see that we don't, or what they don't see that we do.

Amen. What could they be thinking? I've heard them say we need help on the frontline. I keep hoping Monday's Dice announcement will make things a bit more clear, but one thing is absolutely clear- we need help for Tim and Tiago.

[ElNono]

Sorry, but he is ultimately responsible for his results on the court, especially as the face of the franchise. He gets the credit for the rings, he gets the credit for the losses.

That's no excuse. Jackson didn't have a problem playing serviceable low-salary players (Barnes, Shannon Brown, etc).

[DMC]

You dont think a team like Okl who has alot of assets and draft picks would be willing to give us a good package for TD? Serge, Collison, Harding, Maynor, Draft picks.....That would go a long way to starting to biuld.

No.

What about Washington, they want to be a playoff team asap. Dont you think they could use a savy vet sg, like Manu??? To Wash for picks and a young player or two.

No.

TP- Think portland would like to have him? What about Tor where there is alot of french fans. TP to Torn for Ed Davis, future picks, cash and a bad contract.

No.

SA is not gonna get FA to come unless we are the only team with cap space. See Jason Kidd...........Even now, how many role players turned us down this off season???

The only way to keep a good team is through the draft, and that comes by getting high picks and drafting well. Next years draft is very strong up front. We could get 2 very good bigs if we can get a couple top 12 picks in trades.

Or just let the ship sink, and finish with the 6th seed, and early out to wrap up TDs career with us.

We are a small market team. We got incredibly lucky in the draft x 2, and even luckier to have those two lucky draft picks overlap. Both picks weren't just great players, they were great people, and neither had a noticeable ego.

Good people who could put their egos aside wanted to play along side these guys.

What's the odds of that ever happening again?

[DMC]

That's no excuse. Jackson didn't have a problem playing serviceable low-salary players (Barnes, Shannon Brown, etc).

Jackson's methods are to play the low salary guys, run the triangle... *and have overwhelming odds stacked in your favor.

That's like saying "work out daily and eat right, then take this pill and you will lose weight".

[ElNono]

Jackson's methods are to play the low salary guys, run the triangle... *and have overwhelming odds stacked in your favor.

That's like saying "work out daily and eat right, then take this pill and you will lose weight".

Ehh, I don't disagree. But having the better odds include playing your best talent. There's no way a guy like Phil sits Splitter because he loves Bonner. Much like he didn't sit down Odom because he loved Walton.

[DMC]

Ehh, I don't disagree. But having the better odds include playing your best talent. There's no way a guy like Phil sits Splitter because he loves Bonner. Much like he didn't sit down Odom because he loved Walton.

Yes, and Pop's best talent is Tim, Tony and Manu. Everyone else is lower than mid level talent. Phil had Kobe and Shaq, and there rest were just traffic cones for defenders to go around to get to one of the two listed.

Phil also had some good role players however. We've had good role players in the past. We don't really have that now. We have "maybes". Brent Barry, even now, could give us what Bonner gives us. Blair is a basket case, or so it seems. Our only real is with the minutes Tiago got last season. I agree he should have gotten more, but let's see how he does before we can know if, in retrospect, Pop saw what we didn't.

[therealtruth]

Yes, and Pop's best talent is Tim, Tony and Manu. Everyone else is lower than mid level talent. Phil had Kobe and Shaq, and there rest were just traffic cones for defenders to go around to get to one of the two listed.

Phil also had some good role players however. We've had good role players in the past. We don't really have that now. We have "maybes". Brent Barry, even now, could give us what Bonner gives us. Blair is a basket case, or so it seems. Our only real is with the minutes Tiago got last season. I agree he should have gotten more, but let's see how he does before we can know if, in retrospect, Pop saw what we didn't.

Pop answered that question when he panicked in game 3 and played Splitter.

[DMC]

Pop answered that question when he panicked in game 3 and played Splitter.

We'll see.

[Giuseppe]