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    Spurs value character = not in the Spurs radar, IMO

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    his value is not as laughable as low as some of the proposals. would probably be leonard(since they are loaded with guards already) neal blair for cousins garcia.
    You're out of your mind. The kings are going to be begging teams to take him.

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    with the current roster that the spurs have, I think its necessary to address the lack of help from the front line. Adding cousins would be the best upgrade for this team, and I have no problem offering splitter/jefferson/anderson and a future first rounder for cousins.

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    with the current roster that the spurs have, I think its necessary to address the lack of help from the front line. Adding cousins would be the best upgrade for this team, and I have no problem offering splitter/jefferson/anderson and a future first rounder for cousins.
    Are you re ed enough or are you just trying harder to be stupid?


    Wow.

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    tbh, I have a feeling Kings are going to want to package him with "The Microwave" Thornton, who's due $32 million for the next 4 seasons and a blackhole.

    I just don't think they're going to let him walk for the equivalent of $4.5m...

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    Are you re ed enough or are you just trying harder to be stupid?


    Wow.
    Of course I don't mean offer all 3, just a player from that group, bonner and a future 1st rounder. The kings are going to need at least 1 prospect included in any potential trade whether it be in,a future draft, or vice-versa.

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    let's also go for blatche while we're at it...

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    Maybe none of you really followed him, or what went on in Sac last year. While they were trying to negotiate his rookie contract, he was such a crazy bas that there were rumors that they might actually renounce him. They got the contract signed, and then had to hire his high school coach as a babysitter, in the hope that he would at least have a little influence over him. (Maybe there have been other coaches who jumped straight from high school to being an assistant in the NBA, but I never heard about it.) One of the Kings' staff got into trouble for saying that the "kid has a screw loose" - but everyone else was thinking the same thing.

    From the moment he arrived, he started making demands like he was LeBron. He ignored and insulted Paul Westphal, and the assistants, and was all but uncontrollable. He showed up for camp at almost 300 lbs., and pissed on the strength coach until the team finally fined him $5K, and threatened to suspend him for the first game of the season. He had screaming matches with coaches during practices, over their instructions. During the season, he started a fight with Donte Greene after a game that was so bad that he was refused a seat on the team plane afterward. Why? Because during the game, Greene inbounded the ball to another player, and Cousins thought he should have gotten it instead. That's a rookie... with one year of college ball under his belt.

    This season he came into camp as the supposedly "new and improved" DeMarcus Cousins. All of that at ude was behind him, and he was going to be a good teammate and bring a championship to Sacramento. He couldn't even make it last two weeks - on the last day of camp he demanded to be traded. Seriously? Demanding a trade over something that happened in camp?

    Of course, it shouldn't be any surprise that he's demanding a trade after one season in the league. After high school, he committed to one university. (Alabama?), then reneged. Then he signed a letter of intent with Memphis. Then reneged again, and went to Kentucky.

    You guys can debate his talent all you want to. I think most people agree he's got skills. But there's no way he's coming to this team. Everyone knows about the time Latrell Sprewell choked P.J. Carlesimo. But the team didn't really publicize the time he got into a fight with Jerome Kersey, and came back to practice with a two by four, and threatened to bring a gun. (Or a bunch of other crazy-stupid .) Cousins is a lot like that. There's a lot more wrong with him than most people have read about on ESPN. And unless he gets his head fixed, he'll bring his teams just as many championships as Sprewell did. I don't think players all have to be do-gooders. But they can't be crazy-assed, distractive troublemakers all the time, either.

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    Thanks for the info GSH, but didn't Pop try to get Sprewell on the Spurs once or twice before?

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    ^ Good post. I wasn't aware of his problems. I'm sure everybody in the league is hip to his craziness. Good luck kid....

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    Maybe none of you really followed him, or what went on in Sac last year. While they were trying to negotiate his rookie contract, he was such a crazy bas that there were rumors that they might actually renounce him. They got the contract signed, and then had to hire his high school coach as a babysitter, in the hope that he would at least have a little influence over him. (Maybe there have been other coaches who jumped straight from high school to being an assistant in the NBA, but I never heard about it.) One of the Kings' staff got into trouble for saying that the "kid has a screw loose" - but everyone else was thinking the same thing.

    From the moment he arrived, he started making demands like he was LeBron. He ignored and insulted Paul Westphal, and the assistants, and was all but uncontrollable. He showed up for camp at almost 300 lbs., and pissed on the strength coach until the team finally fined him $5K, and threatened to suspend him for the first game of the season. He had screaming matches with coaches during practices, over their instructions. During the season, he started a fight with Donte Greene after a game that was so bad that he was refused a seat on the team plane afterward. Why? Because during the game, Greene inbounded the ball to another player, and Cousins thought he should have gotten it instead. That's a rookie... with one year of college ball under his belt.

    This season he came into camp as the supposedly "new and improved" DeMarcus Cousins. All of that at ude was behind him, and he was going to be a good teammate and bring a championship to Sacramento. He couldn't even make it last two weeks - on the last day of camp he demanded to be traded. Seriously? Demanding a trade over something that happened in camp?

    Of course, it shouldn't be any surprise that he's demanding a trade after one season in the league. After high school, he committed to one university. (Alabama?), then reneged. Then he signed a letter of intent with Memphis. Then reneged again, and went to Kentucky.

    You guys can debate his talent all you want to. I think most people agree he's got skills. But there's no way he's coming to this team. Everyone knows about the time Latrell Sprewell choked P.J. Carlesimo. But the team didn't really publicize the time he got into a fight with Jerome Kersey, and came back to practice with a two by four, and threatened to bring a gun. (Or a bunch of other crazy-stupid .) Cousins is a lot like that. There's a lot more wrong with him than most people have read about on ESPN. And unless he gets his head fixed, he'll bring his teams just as many championships as Sprewell did. I don't think players all have to be do-gooders. But they can't be crazy-assed, distractive troublemakers all the time, either.
    Wow! Thanks for posting this. It's pretty obvious that this kid quite possibly DOES have a screw loose somewhere.

    I guarantee Mark Cuban will be after him for sure - seeing as how he's trying to corner the market on bigs.

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    Maybe none of you really followed him, or what went on in Sac last year. While they were trying to negotiate his rookie contract, he was such a crazy bas that there were rumors that they might actually renounce him. They got the contract signed, and then had to hire his high school coach as a babysitter, in the hope that he would at least have a little influence over him. (Maybe there have been other coaches who jumped straight from high school to being an assistant in the NBA, but I never heard about it.) One of the Kings' staff got into trouble for saying that the "kid has a screw loose" - but everyone else was thinking the same thing.

    From the moment he arrived, he started making demands like he was LeBron. He ignored and insulted Paul Westphal, and the assistants, and was all but uncontrollable. He showed up for camp at almost 300 lbs., and pissed on the strength coach until the team finally fined him $5K, and threatened to suspend him for the first game of the season. He had screaming matches with coaches during practices, over their instructions. During the season, he started a fight with Donte Greene after a game that was so bad that he was refused a seat on the team plane afterward. Why? Because during the game, Greene inbounded the ball to another player, and Cousins thought he should have gotten it instead. That's a rookie... with one year of college ball under his belt.

    This season he came into camp as the supposedly "new and improved" DeMarcus Cousins. All of that at ude was behind him, and he was going to be a good teammate and bring a championship to Sacramento. He couldn't even make it last two weeks - on the last day of camp he demanded to be traded. Seriously? Demanding a trade over something that happened in camp?

    Of course, it shouldn't be any surprise that he's demanding a trade after one season in the league. After high school, he committed to one university. (Alabama?), then reneged. Then he signed a letter of intent with Memphis. Then reneged again, and went to Kentucky.

    You guys can debate his talent all you want to. I think most people agree he's got skills. But there's no way he's coming to this team. Everyone knows about the time Latrell Sprewell choked P.J. Carlesimo. But the team didn't really publicize the time he got into a fight with Jerome Kersey, and came back to practice with a two by four, and threatened to bring a gun. (Or a bunch of other crazy-stupid .) Cousins is a lot like that. There's a lot more wrong with him than most people have read about on ESPN. And unless he gets his head fixed, he'll bring his teams just as many championships as Sprewell did. I don't think players all have to be do-gooders. But they can't be crazy-assed, distractive troublemakers all the time, either.
    Wow, I didn't know all of that; I take back wanting to make a deal for him then. The Spurs are extremely desperate for frontcourt talent, but that's a lot worse than just a lack of maturity.

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    Bonner and a pick, that is all. Pop was able to deal with rodman and jackson, cousins could be worth the chance.

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    Maybe none of you really followed him, or what went on in Sac last year. While they were trying to negotiate his rookie contract, he was such a crazy bas that there were rumors that they might actually renounce him. They got the contract signed, and then had to hire his high school coach as a babysitter, in the hope that he would at least have a little influence over him. (Maybe there have been other coaches who jumped straight from high school to being an assistant in the NBA, but I never heard about it.) One of the Kings' staff got into trouble for saying that the "kid has a screw loose" - but everyone else was thinking the same thing.

    From the moment he arrived, he started making demands like he was LeBron. He ignored and insulted Paul Westphal, and the assistants, and was all but uncontrollable. He showed up for camp at almost 300 lbs., and pissed on the strength coach until the team finally fined him $5K, and threatened to suspend him for the first game of the season. He had screaming matches with coaches during practices, over their instructions. During the season, he started a fight with Donte Greene after a game that was so bad that he was refused a seat on the team plane afterward. Why? Because during the game, Greene inbounded the ball to another player, and Cousins thought he should have gotten it instead. That's a rookie... with one year of college ball under his belt.

    This season he came into camp as the supposedly "new and improved" DeMarcus Cousins. All of that at ude was behind him, and he was going to be a good teammate and bring a championship to Sacramento. He couldn't even make it last two weeks - on the last day of camp he demanded to be traded. Seriously? Demanding a trade over something that happened in camp?

    Of course, it shouldn't be any surprise that he's demanding a trade after one season in the league. After high school, he committed to one university. (Alabama?), then reneged. Then he signed a letter of intent with Memphis. Then reneged again, and went to Kentucky.

    You guys can debate his talent all you want to. I think most people agree he's got skills. But there's no way he's coming to this team. Everyone knows about the time Latrell Sprewell choked P.J. Carlesimo. But the team didn't really publicize the time he got into a fight with Jerome Kersey, and came back to practice with a two by four, and threatened to bring a gun. (Or a bunch of other crazy-stupid .) Cousins is a lot like that. There's a lot more wrong with him than most people have read about on ESPN. And unless he gets his head fixed, he'll bring his teams just as many championships as Sprewell did. I don't think players all have to be do-gooders. But they can't be crazy-assed, distractive troublemakers all the time, either.
    Great post. Here is a yahoo article on Cousins that backs up GSH's post: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...s_kings_010112

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    Maybe none of you really followed him, or what went on in Sac last year. While they were trying to negotiate his rookie contract, he was such a crazy bas that there were rumors that they might actually renounce him. They got the contract signed, and then had to hire his high school coach as a babysitter, in the hope that he would at least have a little influence over him. (Maybe there have been other coaches who jumped straight from high school to being an assistant in the NBA, but I never heard about it.) One of the Kings' staff got into trouble for saying that the "kid has a screw loose" - but everyone else was thinking the same thing.

    From the moment he arrived, he started making demands like he was LeBron. He ignored and insulted Paul Westphal, and the assistants, and was all but uncontrollable. He showed up for camp at almost 300 lbs., and pissed on the strength coach until the team finally fined him $5K, and threatened to suspend him for the first game of the season. He had screaming matches with coaches during practices, over their instructions. During the season, he started a fight with Donte Greene after a game that was so bad that he was refused a seat on the team plane afterward. Why? Because during the game, Greene inbounded the ball to another player, and Cousins thought he should have gotten it instead. That's a rookie... with one year of college ball under his belt.

    This season he came into camp as the supposedly "new and improved" DeMarcus Cousins. All of that at ude was behind him, and he was going to be a good teammate and bring a championship to Sacramento. He couldn't even make it last two weeks - on the last day of camp he demanded to be traded. Seriously? Demanding a trade over something that happened in camp?

    Of course, it shouldn't be any surprise that he's demanding a trade after one season in the league. After high school, he committed to one university. (Alabama?), then reneged. Then he signed a letter of intent with Memphis. Then reneged again, and went to Kentucky.

    You guys can debate his talent all you want to. I think most people agree he's got skills. But there's no way he's coming to this team. Everyone knows about the time Latrell Sprewell choked P.J. Carlesimo. But the team didn't really publicize the time he got into a fight with Jerome Kersey, and came back to practice with a two by four, and threatened to bring a gun. (Or a bunch of other crazy-stupid .) Cousins is a lot like that. There's a lot more wrong with him than most people have read about on ESPN. And unless he gets his head fixed, he'll bring his teams just as many championships as Sprewell did. I don't think players all have to be do-gooders. But they can't be crazy-assed, distractive troublemakers all the time, either.
    Good post, HE has lots of problems.

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    by then he will command a 12 million dollar per year contract. if the spurs want a big man full of potential, they need to pick one up cheap. the at ude problem can easily be corrected on the spurs.
    "Easily corrected"? I doubt it. He has a few hard lessons to learn before he'll listen to someone like Pop.

    In other words you basically would want him for free.
    I like these guys who would want a player but aren't willing to trade anyone worth anything.

    Splitter for him would be a steal for the Spurs. He has far more upside potential than Splitter.
    Yup, I'd basically want him for comparable contracts and a first round pick or something like that. Sure he has more upside than Splitter, but he also has the potential to completely disrupt the franchise. We've been carefully stockpiling nice young players to place around a lottery pick or big FA splash within two years (probably after this year when Tim retires), and I wouldn't be throwing away assets on gambles at this point.

    He's the next coming....

    Of Mike SuckmyWokandi!

    Spurs fans thought Olowokandi was going to be a beast here should he come and I argued that was big naw, and well, the Spurs got rings once Wokandi bailed for Minnesota and did what? What did he do after he left the Clippers? What is he doing now?

    That's the career path that Cousins is on right now. He ain't Spur material...He just ain't.
    Very likely the case.

    I don't want this cancer anywhere near my team. This is a guy who has gotten into MULTIPLE fights with teammates. . No.
    Indeed.

    Cousins puts the C in "cancer". He is not a Spur. But if it cost us little to gamble on him I'd do it, then he's easy to let go. Trading up-and-comers like Grizz, Splitter, or Leonard for him would be the kind of mismanagement we've all chided the FO for in the past. Nope, stay the course for mine - I like the way some of these kids are developing!
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    Neal & that guy who drove face ass down drunk withstanding.

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    Neal & that guy who drove face ass down drunk withstanding.
    Just how ing pathetic are you?

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    Just how ing pathetic are you?
    Just checking, daddy.

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    Dont give up big 3, Thiago, JA, Neal, Blair, Leonard. Only deal with picks and RJ for SF and Cousins.
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    Of Mike SuckmyWokandi!

    Spurs fans thought Olowokandi was going to be a beast here should he come and I argued that was big naw, and well, the Spurs got rings once Wokandi bailed for Minnesota and did what? What did he do after he left the Clippers? What is he doing now?

    That's the career path that Cousins is on right now. He ain't Spur material...He just ain't.
    He's actually much worse than Kandi man. He combines that laziness and lack of work ethic with a malignant personality. Kandi just seemed like a goof.

    DC won't "get it" until it costs him big money in FA.

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    You guys can debate his talent all you want to. I think most people agree he's got skills. But there's no way he's coming to this team. Everyone knows about the time Latrell Sprewell choked P.J. Carlesimo. But the team didn't really publicize the time he got into a fight with Jerome Kersey, and came back to practice with a two by four, and threatened to bring a gun. (Or a bunch of other crazy-stupid .) Cousins is a lot like that. There's a lot more wrong with him than most people have read about on ESPN. And unless he gets his head fixed, he'll bring his teams just as many championships as Sprewell did. I don't think players all have to be do-gooders. But they can't be crazy-assed, distractive troublemakers all the time, either.
    Sprewell was a bad example. Sprewell was a missed opportunity for the Spurs. Sprewell came back to have great years and even got the Knicks into the finals in 1999. He would have been great on the Spurs instead of what the Spurs were running out in the backcourt at the time.
    Sprewell would have been important in trying to prevent the lakers from their 3 peat.
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    Sprewell was a bad example. Sprewell was a missed opportunity for the Spurs. Sprewell came back to have great years and even got the Knicks into the finals in 1999. He would have been great on the Spurs instead of what the Spurs were running out in the backcourt at the time.
    Sprewell would have been important in trying to prevent the lakers from their 3 peat.
    Sprewell would have kept Manu in Italy.

    By all accounts, Spree's "PJ choke" was a one time incident. DC has repeated issues with coaches AND teammates. I sometimes think that if he just got his ass kicked once, a real beat down, he might straighten out. He's the basketball equivalent of a Pageant Princess, spoiled and touted his whole life.

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    Interesting to hear thew fact on this kid. The theme in most of these posts show that they think it would take alot to get this guy. When a guy demands a trade and is sitting out games, it doesnt give much leverage for the kings to demand much. With that being said, I dont think it would take much to get this guy.

    Character wise, this guy sounds like he thinks he is in led to everything. Pop in his face would work on a kid like this, but if this kid has a few loose marbles like many think, then no kind of Pop screaming would ever work on him. Seems like it could be a low risk high reward situation, because we know Pop and the Team wouldnt mess around long with an idiot.

    People forget fast about having people like Rodman and Strickland here. Pop did a good job on these nut cases IMO. Im sure there are a few we dont even know about.

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    People forget fast about having people like Rodman and Strickland here. Pop did a good job on these nut cases IMO. Im sure there are a few we dont even know about.
    Pop was an assistant under Larry Brown when Strickland played for the Spurs. Brown and Pop were fired during Strickland's last season in San Antonio. Pop never coached Rodman, but he did trade him away after he was brought back to the Spurs as GM.

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