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    Yes it's true. I had membership there for the summer when I couldn't go to my university gym. They prohibited one dude from doing deadlifts. They would also give me the evil eye when ever I did a few sets. Furthermore, there are no squat racks or a bench press, only smith machines. Also, the dumbbells go as high as 75 lbs.

    The Planet Fitness I went was the only one in the city with a regular bench press but no squat rack. That's the only reason I went there for a few months because I would take the barbell from the bench for deadlifts, rows, push presses, and front squats. Most Planet Fitness gyms might not have barbells to do deadlifts.
    Holy that is ing ridiculous. Buncha self-conscious fat s all butthurt at people doing real exercises. Smith machines

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    How can you lift when Zyzz is dead?
    Didnt know the Zyzz made it famous in the US tbh .

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    dont ever neglect compound lifts

    Squats (most important of all)
    Bench Press
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    Deadlift
    Overhead Press

    As long as you do those regularly with proper form, your entire body will grow bigger and stronger, faster than if you do a bunch of isolation crap or machine exercises.
    This was my problem a while ago. I started out about 6'4 and 175 soaking wet when i was 18 doing mainly compound excercises and got to about 200 in less than a year. Then i started doing iso excercises (dont even know why now tbh) and for some reason stuck with that for nearly a year with the occassional compound excercies and couldnt put on anymore weight. Once i snapped out of it and went back to what got me big within weeks my friends were noticing me getting thicker and bigger within weeks.


    Also, don't listen to gots who tell you "dont squat so low that your hips are below your knees or you will mess your knees up" or "don't let the bar touch your chest on the bench press or your shoulders will be messed up".

    Those are bull . Keeping your hips above your knees messes them up more than going past the knees. And on the bench press, make sure your grip is wide enough that your forearms are perpendicular to the bar when you touch the chest. Your gains will increase faster and your stabilizing muscles will become infinitely stronger. Trust me. And if you haven't been doing that already, then I would suggest starting to do so, but deload on the weight you have been doing, so that you can let the stabilizing muscles catch up in strength.
    If i increase my weight on my squat too miuch it feels like my knees start taking alot of the weight instead of my muscles. It might have something to do with the proportion of your body aswell.. not only height but im not sure.

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    If i increase my weight on my squat too miuch it feels like my knees start taking alot of the weight instead of my muscles. It might have something to do with the proportion of your body aswell.. not only height but im not sure.
    Yeah, I'm sure a persons natural build can definitely affect it, but I do know that once I made it a focus to squat my hips down past my knees, I could feel the weight immediately shift to my muscles instead of my knees. It made a MAJOR difference in how squats felt to me, because I used to hate doing squats, until I really focused on going lower, and now I have a much different view of them.

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    All that squat , be sure and take a few of my friends along.

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    Weight training is great. I have been doing it for 40 years. It keeps you looking young and strong. Concentrate on hitting the 6 major body parts: Legs, Biceps,Triceps, Shoulders, Chest and Back.

    Pick a schedule you like and when your trying to build hit each body part twice a week, once you get in shape and have been doing it for years you can hit each body part once a week and not lose much.

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    This thread got me thinking about getting back into weight training. I've been getting bored with running & cycling and too much aerobic has got me looking too thin.

    So 2 workouts in doing the 5x5 plus dips & pullups...holy I'm sore!

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    I've been training pretty regularly for about 8 years. I used to go to the gym 4-5 days a week but my job only allows me to go 3...and if you are doing it right that's really all you need. I agree with those that say simplicity is the best route if you are just starting out. If you want something a little more intense/muscle endurance based you can drop the rest time in between sets and decrease the weight some. I've been doing this for a while and have seen some good results. Even with that, you don't need more that 30-45 minutes of weights. I do my weights and then spin for 45 minutes and I'm done.

    If you get bored with just regular weights/cardio I'd recommend trying Crossfit. The gym I go to is Crossfit certified and the guys that do it religiously look like action figures. They do some crazy stuff, but it will get you in sick shape.

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    Norcal knew the results of training.

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    Thinking about switching over to the 5x5 routine. Have been doing isolation and machines for years now, only picking up free weights for chest and biceps. I feel like I've maxed out and built all the size I can for my small frame doing what I've been doing. That 5x5 really work, stretch?

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    ^you, in a weight lifting thread?

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    5x5 is gdlk

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    Thinking about switching over to the 5x5 routine. Have been doing isolation and machines for years now, only picking up free weights for chest and biceps. I feel like I've maxed out and built all the size I can for my small frame doing what I've been doing. That 5x5 really work, stretch?
    Yessir. Try it. I guarantee, if you do it right, within a month, you will both see and feel a noticable difference. I wouldn't be shocked at all, if in 3 months, you add 10-15 lbs of muscle (provided you stay regular with the routine, and eat plenty of good food).

    What is also interesting about this routine, is that it is one of the very few, if you eat right, you can both burn fat and gain muscle. In my case, within a month, I didn't lose any weight (I actually have slightly gained), but it was visibly evident that I had dropped several pounds of fat, and was able to gain muscle weight to stay around the same weight.

    I was always told that it's impossible to both burn fat and gain muscle, but that is wrong.
    Last edited by stretch; 02-14-2012 at 01:45 PM.

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    I've been training pretty regularly for about 8 years. I used to go to the gym 4-5 days a week but my job only allows me to go 3...and if you are doing it right that's really all you need. I agree with those that say simplicity is the best route if you are just starting out. If you want something a little more intense/muscle endurance based you can drop the rest time in between sets and decrease the weight some. I've been doing this for a while and have seen some good results. Even with that, you don't need more that 30-45 minutes of weights. I do my weights and then spin for 45 minutes and I'm done.

    If you get bored with just regular weights/cardio I'd recommend trying Crossfit. The gym I go to is Crossfit certified and the guys that do it religiously look like action figures. They do some crazy stuff, but it will get you in sick shape.


    Full body compound routines >>> split isolation routines

    Less time needed, while getting better and more complete workouts.

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    This thread got me thinking about getting back into weight training. I've been getting bored with running & cycling and too much aerobic has got me looking too thin.

    So 2 workouts in doing the 5x5 plus dips & pullups...holy I'm sore!
    Be sure to eat plenty to support the growth. You won't regret it in a couple months.

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    Be sure to eat plenty to support the growth. You won't regret it in a couple months.
    Yeah, I switched to a vegan diet 2 weeks ago so it will be interesting to see what kind of gains I get on this diet. It was tough to switch for the first week but now I feel better than ever. I've started including plenty of quinoa into my diet so I should be getting plenty of protein to support muscle growth.

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    Yeah, I switched to a vegan diet 2 weeks ago so it will be interesting to see what kind of gains I get on this diet. It was tough to switch for the first week but now I feel better than ever. I've started including plenty of quinoa into my diet so I should be getting plenty of protein to support muscle growth.
    Awesome. As long as its healthy foods, and you are eating more than you burn (i'd say aim for a minimum of 3500/day), you will make some fast gains.

    If you really like milk, you could try the GOMAD diet (Gallon Of Milk A Day), although that might be overkill. I'd say a half gallon a day would more than fit most people's needs.

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    Yessir. Try it. I guarantee, if you do it right, within a month, you will both see and feel a noticable difference. I wouldn't be shocked at all, if in 3 months, you add 10-15 lbs of muscle (provided you stay regular with the routine, and eat plenty of good food).

    What is also interesting about this routine, is that it is one of the very few, if you eat right, you can both burn fat and gain muscle. In my case, within a month, I didn't lose any weight (I actually have slightly gained), but it was visibly evident that I had dropped several pounds of fat, and was able to gain muscle weight to stay around the same weight.

    I was always told that it's impossible to both burn fat and gain muscle, but that is wrong.
    What was your starting weight/size/frame?

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    ^you, in a weight lifting thread?
    lol has anyone here seen a picture of me that wasn't 7 years old?

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    lol has anyone here seen a picture of me that wasn't 7 years old?
    i don't think the one of you, your pencil neck and glasses next to pat and his beard was 7 years old

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    lol has anyone here seen a picture of me that wasn't 7 years old?
    what i actually meant to say though was only the ones on the wall in your house when i come over to re 's momma

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    i don't think the one of you, your pencil neck and glasses next to pat and his beard was 7 years old
    2007 western conference finals. Ok, anyone seen a picture of me that isn't 5 years old?

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    What was your starting weight/size/frame?
    I had already been doing regular lifting for almost a year prior to starting the 5x5 (with not much results), so at that time, I was at 6'2, 202lbs. I wasn't really muscular, nor was I particularly fat either, just an average looking dude. After about 6 weeks, I was at about 204, and visibly slimmer/more muscular.

    Also, consider that this includes me dieting, which wasn't particularly strict, just limiting calorie intake on non-workout days, while eating a little more on workout days. If I had been keeping a high calorie intake the entire time, I'm 100% certain I would have had a greater muscle gain.

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    what i actually meant to say though was only the ones on the wall in your house when i come over to re 's momma

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    I had already been doing regular lifting for almost a year prior to starting the 5x5 (with not much results), so at that time, I was at 6'2, 202lbs. I wasn't really muscular, nor was I particularly fat either, just an average looking dude. After about 6 weeks, I was at about 204, and visibly slimmer/more muscular.

    Also, consider that this includes me dieting, which wasn't particularly strict, just limiting calorie intake on non-workout days, while eating a little more on workout days. If I had been keeping a high calorie intake the entire time, I'm 100% certain I would have had a greater muscle gain.
    i never understood limiting calorie intake. whenever i was working out, i always ate as much as humanly possible for maximum growth. everyone i know who is big does the same, if you're active and do your cardio i don't see why a healthy young lifter would eat anything under 3k calories per day.

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