As limited as the minutes might be, the money will be even more limited.
I respect the role Glenn Robinson has taken with this team and his apparent thankfulness to the Spurs for bailing out his floundering career. I'll root for him from now on, whether he's here or not. But with the composition of this roster and the franchise's position against the cap, I can't see him staying here.
Probably the resemblence to former hip hop star Nate Dogg.I'm just wondering: at what point did that nickname acquire the second G's in each name. I had always understood Glenn's monniker to be "Big Dog," in the normal sense and not in any hip-hop sense. Though it's not terribly important, I'm honestly curious about that.
Pop has a covetous eye for talent, IMO even at expense of character and D...if Robinson has been the team player it seems he's been..IMO Pop is going to be interested. He's still got the J.
I would question whether those expectations were realistic. I simply think the bottom line is GRob thinks he can be a starter next year. If that doesn't happen, I doubt playing in SA behind three or four other swingmen and waiting for Bruce to slow down would fit his idea of improving his stock.he hasn't had the impact we thought he would in the playoffs
I think our expectations were realistic...Pop said he dropped out of the rotation because he missed virtually all of the Phoenix series...Pop said he was basically starting over. I don't think anyone foresaw Big Dogg's mom passing at that particular time.
So, more 10mpg and .375 shooting was what we were expecting had his mom not died?
Uh no...more like I was expecting you to not be stupid...which I guess makes me stupid.
I was asking you about the impact you expected.
Was that the impact you expected in the first two series?
It's a fair question. If you are afraid to answer, that's fine.
Given the minutes and situations he played? Those numbers are certainly understandable...I think we expected his impact to increase as the playoffs progessed...basically just like they did in the regular season. I don't think anyone was expecting him to have to start over in the middle of the playoffs due to a death in his family.
I mean are you surprised he got reset by Pop considering he missed all of the WCF(good reason or not) and was only with the team for like the last 10 games of the regular season?
And he had a nice defensive game in the early part of this series.
I think Pop probably would've stuck to playing the same kind of situational minutes had he been before -- he was a next-to-last resort and did well enough then. Given the fact he doesn't have plays run for him, etc., I think GRob's shooting was about as good as could be expected -- i.e., only shooting .400 or above 3 out of 9 playoff games.
I like the way he has played for us and I'm thankful he signed -- but it's simply a numbers game at this point -- Bruce, Manu, Brent, Devin, Linton -- and maybe a draft pick next year and Viktor beyond that....that's a long line to be near the end of.
ChumpDumper, check your PM's please.
Now why didn't you just say that in the first place? I pretty much agree with that.
I don't think Brent is a cetainty to be here next season...nor do I think Devin is. If Devin does return.. I think it's a mistake to not have some kind of protection because of Devin's back as well. Pop is cautious about this sort of thing...
Pop loves Devin...but he's all about the Spurs even when Drob is on the line...he's going to want some high quality insurance at the least. I don't know where LJ III rates with him right now. Based on his offense I don't think that's going to be insurance enough for Pop. I think Grob will be on the Spurs mind until he takes himself out of the picture.
If Devin gets a multi-year deal from the Spurs, I imagine the 2nd year onward would be team option.If Devin does return.. I think it's a mistake to not have some kind of protection because of Devin's back as well. Pop is cautious about this sort of thing...
The thing is...I don't think it's a choice between Devin or Grobb...
I think Pop will get all he can and sit someones butt on the bench...
The choice is between Scola and GRob...Scola still has a year on his Euro Contract and is not a proven NBA player...and he plays the position where the true glut is...and there is moving him from that position.
The Spurs IMO might have a choice between a recent All Star Small Forward or an NBA rookie PF...during a le contending year...I think Pop is going to like the possibilities of Robinson on this team...
Horry is gonna be back...if Pop has say in it. TMass is a vet min player who Duncan likes he'll be back.
I can see Pop signing all he can get and sitting some butts on the IR...he's going to do what is best for the Spurs first.
I've never thought that we have a glut at the SF position anyway...
Unless the CBA changed, only the final year can be at the team's option.
I'd be curious to know if the manner in which career-ending injuries impact the cap has changed at all. It used to be more or less two years before an affected player came off the cap, and I know there was some impetus to change that.
According to Stern's announcement, there were some changes in the roster numbers. Did anyone catch that/understand what he meant? At one point he said the roster would be 14 (but I don't think he meant instead of the active 12).
And I think Devin is willing to live with that.I think Pop will get all he can and sit someones butt on the bench...
Not Robinson.
12 active players. 3 man practice squad/injured list.
Something changed because teams now have options in the 3rd and 4th year of rookie contracts...
Basically the players got raped in this CBA deal...so it wouldn't surprise me if they lost that perk as well.
Right, Barry would probably be willing to do it too(not as willingly as Devin though)...and Robinson is probably the least likely to be asked by Pop to live with it. Robinson is the guy that is only 3 years removed from the All Star Status...he's going to be an attractive option to the Spurs if his at ude has been as good as reported.
If his at ude has been good...I think it's going to be entirely up to him if he wants to be back...I think the Spurs will go the full MLE for him if he wants to be here and come off the bench.
If that applied to this situation, I'd agree. I suppose the years after the first could be partially guaranteed or incentive-based (completed games, etc.), but we haven't gotten to an NFL level of just being able to cut anyone. We'll see what the new CBA says in the next few days.Something changed because teams now have options in the 3rd and 4th year of rookie contracts.
I just posted a thread with most of the details on the new CBA. Whott - there was no changes to the MLE.
Has the minor league system been brought up in the forum? If a player has less than two years experience in the league, they can be sent down to the NBDL.
To me, that is awesome. Guys like Romain Sato and Linton Johnson III could play in the NBDL and the Spurs still have their rights. That allows late bloomers (like Manu Ginobili) to grow outside of the NBA environment.
The Spurs have a pretty good minor league system, it's called Europe
I get your point though...now we can do the same sort of thing with American players and players that we bring over from Europe...I agree it's awesome. For the teams and the players.
Thanks Kori...you're a good woman.
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