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    I would like to have faith in my head coach...i say pop doesn't play splitter with Duncan against the fakers because he doesn't want mike brown to get a look at it before the playoffs...also tiago and Ginobili are a great combination, why mess that up?
    That's what I said yesterday. Last night was nothing more than a military exercise on how the LAL plays when Bean is not focal point but once he's back, alpha is back and he'll try to kick Bynum back to beta or gamma land.

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    You guys all saw that these past two games Bonner was there in crunch time....obviously Pop is depending on Bonner to close games...

    Goodbye #5.

    Any team that has Bonner on the floor in crunch time is not a championship team. This doesn't get any clearer. Pop is going to cost the Spurs another ring.

    Anyone that cannot see this is just plain blind.

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    You guys all saw that these past two games Bonner was there in crunch time....obviously Pop is depending on Bonner to close games...

    Goodbye #5.

    Any team that has Bonner on the floor in crunch time is not a championship team. This doesn't get any clearer. Pop is going to cost the Spurs another ring.

    Anyone that cannot see this is just plain blind.
    .Any moron can . Offer an alternative that makes sense.

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    Cost us a ring? Even with Splitter our chances aren't so big

    But we could be a stronger team for sure.We aren't playing all our talent.
    This. We're making games harder and in the end that will backfire. I guess Pop is giving himself the challenge of winning while limiting the second best big.

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    They aren't winning number 5 because they don't have the talent or athleticism to win it. It's not because they don't have the coach to win it. Tim Duncan is a s of his former, totally overwhelming presence. If the Spurs win a ring, it's going to be because they put a string of wins together through great outside shooting and luckily avoided tough matchups.
    Exactly. Which is why you need to give yourself a fighting chance by playing your best players.

    This. We're making games harder and in the end that will backfire. I guess Pop is giving himself the challenge of winning while limiting the second best big.
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    An alternative for Bonner closing games?

    Bonner not closing games.

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    It's time a real journalist in SA nailed Pop with the question: "why don't you play Tim and Splitter together more of the time against big frontcourts?" Pop obviously has a reason for this and it's about time he told the world.

    It is also time people stopped thinking Pop is such an egomaniac that he'd deliberately hurt his team. He is one of the greatest coaches of all time and he's not a "stubborn old fool" as so many of you contend. In fact, he has innovated as the game has changed as much as anyone and is the best coach in the world bar Phil Jackson. Who else would you rather have coaching this team?

    "Pop is an idiot" and "the FO is crap" are two refrains I am utterly sick of hearing from supposed "Spurs fans".

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    Well if he ever decided to use his clipboard...


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    + 11 for Tiago is good he did a great job in the 13 minutes of court time.

    - 1 for Timmeh with his 28 points 12 rebounds and 2 blocks

    + 22 for Bonner even though he had stats of 7 pts 1reb 1ast 1blk and shot a ty 1 of 6 from downtown?

    I dont get this +/- ?

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    It's time a real journalist in SA nailed Pop with the question: "why don't you play Tim and Splitter together more of the time against big frontcourts?" Pop obviously has a reason for this and it's about time he told the world.

    It is also time people stopped thinking Pop is such an egomaniac that he'd deliberately hurt his team. He is one of the greatest coaches of all time and he's not a "stubborn old fool" as so many of you contend. In fact, he has innovated as the game has changed as much as anyone and is the best coach in the world bar Phil Jackson. Who else would you rather have coaching this team?

    "Pop is an idiot" and "the FO is crap" are two refrains I am utterly sick of hearing from supposed "Spurs fans".
    I doubt Phil Jack would be a good coach for this Spurs team. And to answer your question (again), I'd rather have Thibs. That said, Pop is fine he just needs to make some changes before it's too late.

    I wouldn't say that his decision to sabotage the team is deliberate. He's already said that Splitter is "unskilled" and "blue-collar". I'd say that his problem is that he has a blind spot when it comes to spreading the floor and that he's refusing/not wanting to see the benefits of playing a big that plays solid defense, finishes, has some post moves, rebounds, hustles, is poised, has big game experience...

    And that it's costing the team big time to the point where short of an unprecedented string of good luck and hot shooting, there's zero chance that the Spurs win it all.

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    + 11 for Tiago is good he did a great job in the 13 minutes of court time.

    - 1 for Timmeh with his 28 points 12 rebounds and 2 blocks

    + 22 for Bonner even though he had stats of 7 pts 1reb 1ast 1blk and shot a ty 1 of 6 from downtown?

    I dont get this +/- ?
    Thats because it's a rack of at times and some idiots use it to prove someone is good! LOL -1 with Tim too! Although he is by far our best BIG he gets a -1 while bonner gets a +22 hahhhhahaahahha.

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    Blair is fine when we're doing small ball, or matching up against teams that don't have dominant big men. Aside from that, his ass should be on the bench. I'm hoping that these past 2 games have shown Pop that against teams like the Lakers and Grizz, that Splitter and Diaw need to be taking over Blair's minutes.

    Unless Pop is just trolling everyone, and intentionally acting like he doesn't know what's going on...

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    Blair is fine when we're doing small ball, or matching up against teams that don't have dominant big men. Aside from that, his ass should be on the bench. I'm hoping that these past 2 games have shown Pop that against teams like the Lakers and Grizz, that Splitter and Diaw need to be taking over Blair's minutes.

    Unless Pop is just trolling everyone, and intentionally acting like he doesn't know what's going on...
    Just take him out of the rotation. You can take guys in and out of the rotation like that.

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    Just take him out of the rotation. You can take guys in and out of the rotation like that.
    Thanks Coach.

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    Even with Pop trying to do his best to sink this team, we've actually gained ground on OKC and are only .5 games out of first place in the West. Pop even fails at failing!!!

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    Well I don't agree with the thread le.. but I get the sentiment, and I agree.

    Pop dropped the ball big time this year. For the first time in many seasons, we had a talented and long big man to pair with Duncan and attempt to reignite our passion for defense. Splitter has clearly been the 2nd best big man both offensively and defensive. And there were times where he was temporarily number 1.

    I'm not saying that the solution is to start Splitter, pair him with Duncan, and give him 25+ mpg. But the most disappointing aspect of all this is that Pop didn't even try. No question that playing your best players give you the best chance to win, especially in a situation where it makes sense.

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    Well I don't agree with the thread le.. but I get the sentiment, and I agree.

    Pop dropped the ball big time this year. For the first time in many seasons, we had a talented and long big man to pair with Duncan and attempt to reignite our passion for defense. Splitter has clearly been the 2nd best big man both offensively and defensive. And there were times where he was temporarily number 1.

    I'm not saying that the solution is to start Splitter, pair him with Duncan, and give him 25+ mpg. But the most disappointing aspect of all this is that Pop didn't even try. No question that playing your best players give you the best chance to win, especially in a situation where it makes sense.
    I think with Duncan capable of going for 20+ and 10+ and Splitter 15 and 10, plus Tp,Manu and our wing depth, this team would be a lock for the le.

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    It's time a real journalist in SA nailed Pop with the question: "why don't you play Tim and Splitter together more of the time against big frontcourts?" Pop obviously has a reason for this and it's about time he told the world.

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    I disagree he has any obligation to tell anybody, except his boss, his staff and his players.

    He makes mistakes and I disagree with him sometimes, but to say he's making those out of spite or stuborness is even worse than to claim to know what are his thoughts (as stated in the OP) - but frankly both are pretty stupid.

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    Duncan's per is 21.6, while Tiagos per is 21.3. It's unbelievable how much burn he gets. I seem to have forgotten, but can someone tell me what oberto used to do on offense? That guy had no jumpshot but never seemed to get in the way of the offense. The other thing, how can the celtics defense be that much better than ours? They're an older team and don't even seem to have the kind of defenders/ athletic young guys we have. Is it just the scheme they run? Is it the coaching? I don't understand why the spurs can't put up the same kind of defensive #'s.

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    Well I don't agree with the thread le.. but I get the sentiment, and I agree.

    Pop dropped the ball big time this year. For the first time in many seasons, we had a talented and long big man to pair with Duncan and attempt to reignite our passion for defense. Splitter has clearly been the 2nd best big man both offensively and defensive. And there were times where he was temporarily number 1.

    I'm not saying that the solution is to start Splitter, pair him with Duncan, and give him 25+ mpg. But the most disappointing aspect of all this is that Pop didn't even try. No question that playing your best players give you the best chance to win, especially in a situation where it makes sense.
    Well said.

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    Duncan's per is 21.6, while Tiagos per is 21.3. It's unbelievable how much burn he gets. I seem to have forgotten, but can someone tell me what oberto used to do on offense? That guy had no jumpshot but never seemed to get in the way of the offense. The other thing, how can the celtics defense be that much better than ours? They're an older team and don't even seem to have the kind of defenders/ athletic young guys we have. Is it just the scheme they run? Is it the coaching? I don't understand why the spurs can't put up the same kind of defensive #'s.
    Can you imagine the trouble we could create for opposing frontcourts if those guys played together? I remember in '07 Oberto averaging like 14 in the first two games against the Jazz. I think Splitter could easily average around there if given minutes.

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    Can you imagine the trouble we could create for opposing frontcourts if those guys played together? I remember in '07 Oberto averaging like 14 in the first two games against the Jazz. I think Splitter could easily average around there if given minutes.
    Actually, given minutes and the ball I could see Splitter averaging something closer to 18 or 20. I think it's his rebounding that would go down a bit.

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    Splitter < 13 mins, + 11. Not one second of playing time with Duncan.

    He won't do it for the simple fact that everyone wants him to do it. There's no other reason. He's a stubborn old fool who thinks he's smarter than everyone.
    This is the only reason...ONE AND ONLY reason. Hes always went away from the obvious solution bc if another left field solution is out there he'll look more like a genius for using it. Unfortunately with our lack of size issue, there is no other solution other than the obvious.

    Dont look for Tiago and Duncan to ever play more than minimal minutes together.

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    Seriously now... SA cannot sit there and put this much weight on Timmy this late in this his historic 14 years. It's not all about rebounds. It's just the 2nd presence of a big man alone we lack! How ignorant is this? You get no second chances...
    This.

    For all the talk about Tim being old and giving him rest by letting him have nights off, yet the Spurs trot him out there by himself to take on an incredible defensive load (thus negating the rest), especially against bigs like Gasol/Bynum or Gasol/Randolph. Sure Tim's game has regressed with time, but it's magnified even more with the bigs he's asked to play with.

    And like someone mentioned, it might not be Splitter, but at least try this combo, instead of waiting til the 11th hour when it's too late.

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    Well if he ever decided to use his clipboard...

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