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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    OK. Got it. That explains him undercutting players 4-6 times a game (during his 500 straight game streak ). But what about kicking Wally in the face? Was that natural? And if so, can you explain why he was never suspended for it?
    what were the rules when it happened?

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    honestly LKrFan you are making a fool of yourself with that thread tbh

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    Bowen was dirty as ... that said, he was smart and helped his team... you're not going to find multi-game suspensions for him...

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    Or a that sells bean pies in the hot ass sun.
    pink is the new black luva

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    what were the rules when it happened?
    that shiiiiitttt! Does it matter? I guess because it was legal to make Wally "Read these Nikes" that makes it A-OK? Who does Bruce Lee think he is - Willy D (Geto Boys reference)

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    honestly LKrFan you are making a fool of yourself with that thread tbh
    How so? Because I had the balls to start it on SpursTalk? Name one of those YouTube videos that was a ball-fased lie that makes me look foolish. Do you deny that these were non-basketball-acts-of-Kung-Fu-violence? Bruce Lee acted like he was in the Octagon with those round house kicks.

    The only thing foolish about this thread is me thinking many Spur fans would admit that Bruce Lee was an Old DB. There are a few out there - but most refuse to admit it.

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    Bowen was dirty as ... that said, he was smart and helped his team... you're not going to find multi-game suspensions for him...
    The truth shall set you free. Well done son.

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    that shiiiiitttt! Does it matter? I guess because it was legal to make Wally "Read these Nikes" that makes it A-OK? Who does Bruce Lee think he is - Willy D (Geto Boys reference)
    you asked
    And if so, can you explain why he was never suspended for it?
    I can't tell you why he wasn't suspended if i don't know how the rules were written so yes it matters.

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    More of Bowen's greatest kicks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VDMa...e_gdata_player

    SMDH

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    Grab a bottle of milk. It'll calm you down.


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    Grab a bottle of milk. It'll calm you down.

    good one. By not refuting what I posted, that means you agree with me. As a SpurFan, that took some guts. Props son.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Not refuting = agreeing? Where did that came from?

    Any other random rules you want to pull?



    The world is against me. Why are they allowing mean Bruce to kick people in the head, and not allowing poor MWP to elbow others in the head?



    I have never even HEARD of Bruce kicking people in the head, the media hid it from the public and not blow it out of proportion like what they do with my friend MWP.

    I am not going to play with the mean media. I am not going to be friends with them anymore.


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    How so? Because I had the balls to start it on SpursTalk? Name one of those YouTube videos that was a ball-fased lie that makes me look foolish. Do you deny that these were non-basketball-acts-of-Kung-Fu-violence? Bruce Lee acted like he was in the Octagon with those round house kicks.

    The only thing foolish about this thread is me thinking many Spur fans would admit that Bruce Lee was an Old DB. There are a few out there - but most refuse to admit it.
    Bowen had his share of dirty plays no doubt about that but nothing comparable to that crazy elbow

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    lakerfan still ing about bowen

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Like Spurfan gives a . Nice 2007 trolling shtick bro

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    lol ambchang

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    WTF? He elbowed him unintentionally. There was no Malace. He didn't stand over him like Smokey and tell him "You just got knocked the out!" or no like that. Come on Swords. ST Hypocricy at its finest.
    If he did that, then why didn't he just stop where he was and check back on the guy you just clocked?

    It happens in the NBA all the time and then for Metta Weird Piece to stand at half court holding his and saying "WHAT!".
    Gangsta Thug...LAL bandwagon must have never known what the legacy of the Lakers are. IT AIN'T THIS or BYNUM.

    And you LAL Bandwagon who continue to blame Harden are the same clowns who tell little kids to stop wearing shorts around pedophiles because it's excites them.

    Fuk yo thinkin' clown!

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    I'd start by pointing out that Spurs fan didn't love Bowen for "that ". Are the Lakers retiring Shaq's jersey because he got them three rings or because he was an overweight primadonna who helped torpedo a dynasty? Spursfans loved Bowen because he defended like a ing monster night in and night out. Some of the stuff was dirty, but most of it was just him working his ass off to stay in front of his man and contest every shot. So most were willing to take the good with the bad, and to others the questionable stuff just became one more thing in a seemingly bottomless bag of defensive tricks. Oddly enough I've heard fans of everyone from the Pacers to the Lakers say something similar about Artest. They don't love him for being a violent psycho, but rather because he goes out and competes every night. The violent psycho stuff makes him a little harder to love, but you take the good with the bad, right?

    Seems to me that Bruce would be a hypocrite if he was calling out Artest as vicious for doing something along the lines that Bruce himself did. Outside of the Francis play, how many of those guys had to leave the game as a result of Bowen's actions? Pretty sure Wally didn't have a concussion to show for it. If Bruce was calling him out for what Artest got suspended for in 06 with the Kings then the label might stick.

    As to the foot slide thing, as Trainwreck has been getting at there's no rule against it. Elbowing another player in the head has always been illegal in just about every non-combat sport. On top of that it's something that one person cited as something Bowen did "3-4 times a game". I might even believe it was more. Bowen spent multiple seasons covering the opposing team's best perimeter player every night, often guys who averaged 15+ attempts per game. I'd bet that he was covering closer to 6-7 jumpers every night. Even if we go with the conservative 3-4 a night over the course of say 500 games started for the Spurs we get that he stuck his foot under a shooter 1500-2000 times. Of those times Steve Francis got hurt. I know there were others who pissed and moaned about this tactic but was there anyone else who actually got hurt by him doing this? None are jumping to mind but I'm not doing exhaustive research here either. Would you classify an attack that hurts someone 1 out 1500 times as vicious? What kind of rate of injury do you think elbowing someone in the head has?

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    lol trying to compare Bowen with a guy that was suspended for over 100 games...

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    Bruce Bowen retired in 2009.

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...40/1/index.htm
    The 6' 5", 205-pound Allen had averaged a league-high 32.4 points in the first round of the playoffs while leading the Sonics to a 4-1 series win over the Sacramento Kings. The 6' 7", 200-pound Bowen had limited Carmelo Anthony's offensive production in the Spurs' opening-round win over Denver, showing why he had finished second to Detroit center Ben Wallace in Defensive Player of the Year balloting. Bowen's exhaustive assignment in the Western Conference semifinals would be to make life miserable for Allen. This matchup would define the series.

    Three days before Game 1, Allen sat on a watercooler after a practice in Seattle and enumerated his complaints about Bowen: "He pulls on you, he grabs on you, he hits your elbow every time you shoot. Whenever you've got the basketball, he'll shove you--then he'll fall. He's put out on the floor to harass me. Pop [Spurs coach Gregg Popovich] knows what [ Bowen's] doing out there: They think he's playing defense, but anybody in the league will tell you he's one guy you can't stand because of the way he's playing defense."

    Bowen had little to say in response, in part because he was happy to hear that he was already in Allen's head. "I've never heard the great ones say anything like that," Bowen had said earlier in the season when told of similar complaints by Allen. "You never heard Michael Jordan say, 'Oh, John Starks doesn't play basketball.' John Starks may have been physical with him--and what did [ Jordan] do? He went and hit the gym hard and continued to play."

    Retorted Allen, "I appreciate the compliment."

    They had arrived at this duel from opposite poles. Allen, 29, was blessed with balance, charisma and an exceptional shooting touch. He was an All-America in his final season at UConn, has played in five NBA All-Star Games and had a starring role as the prodigious Jesus Shuttlesworth in e Lee's 1998 film He Got Game.

    While Allen had been celebrating his selection as the No. 5 pick in the 1996 draft by Minnesota, Bowen had been trying to plot his escape from the CBA as a swingman with the Rockford (Ill.) Lightning. There would be nothing smooth about Bowen's ascension to the NBA: He had gone undrafted in 1993 after a four-year career at Cal State-Fullerton, played two seasons in France and also had two stints in Rockford before joining the Miami Heat for one game in '97. By 2001 (after stops in Boston, Philadelphia and Miami again) he had established himself as a team player who expressed his virtues at the defensive end, leading Popovich to sign him in July of that year.

    Bowen has started every game he has played for the Spurs: As the defensive Mr. Outside to Tim Duncan's Mr. Inside, he has filled the thankless yet vital role of shadowing everyone from Lakers shooting guard Kobe Bryant to Phoenix power forward Shawn Marion to Allen, his former friend. "Bruce sets the tone for our team defensively," Popovich says. "He takes such pride in it, and all of our guys count on him locking up on somebody every night and doing the best job he can. When you count all of the games and the number of times Bruce goes out and does the same thing every night, our guys really respect it, count on it, and it's part of their personality. And from that, everything flows defensively."

  22. #72
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    Pretty lame attempt, Lakerfan.

    WorldPeace lost his cool and hurt his team. Unintentional? What a ing joke. Watch the video. Harden was pulling MWP's arm behind his back, he lost his tiny, pea-brained little mind and retaliated with a vicious, intentional elbow to the head. It's as clear as ing day.

    Most Spurs fans, who aren't full blown re ed or trolling, openly admit Bowen was dirty. However, Bowen was smart, very rarely lost his cool and never hurt his team by being a dumbass.

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    BB12 was the best perimeter defender of all time, tbqh. Never involved in a dirty play, ever.

    Just great, hard nose defense from a classy, bow tie wearing, gentleman.

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    I have never even HEARD of Bruce kicking people in the head,



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    Bowen was a dirty player in a classy way

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