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    What is your point exactly? That the Spurs boring play and low TV ratings caused them to not own the mid-2000's and win 4 championships over the course of 8 years?
    That there is no correlation between ratings and market sizes, despite what Spurs fans have been claiming for the last decade.

    Try to keep up.

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    If they were playing the Celtics, you think the ratings would be the same? NOOOO!!!!!!!
    No, I dont.

    Celtics wouldnt be as big of a draw as the Heat, in spite of the fact that Boston is a much larger market.

    Again, market sizes dont matter. Hence the name of the thread.

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    That there is no correlation between ratings and market sizes, despite what Spurs fans have been claiming for the last decade.

    Try to keep up.
    Why does this matter? Also are players don't want the spotlight if the spurs players would have opened up to the media and Timmys personality was that of a Kobe, Lebron, etc spurs ratings would be through the roof. But because the way Timmy is doesn't want the spotlight no behind the scene scandals barely opening up to media about his social life. America had nothing to relate to him or to sink there claws into the difference between the spurs and other teams is they don't have a show off the court its only on the court.

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    Why does this matter? Also are players don't want the spotlight if the spurs players would have opened up to the media and Timmys personality was that of a Kobe, Lebron, etc spurs ratings would be through the roof. But because the way Timmy is doesn't want the spotlight no behind the scene scandals barely opening up to media about his social life. America had nothing to relate to him or to sink there claws into the difference between the spurs and other teams is they don't have a show off the court its only on the court.
    Your players dont want "the spotlight"?

    Wasnt Tony Parker married to Eva Longoria? Doesnt Tony Parker have rap albums?

    Excactly what is it about Durant's "personality" that makes him exciting? I thought it was his game that I loved to watch. Youre telling me that if Duncan had the same "personality" as Durant but the exact same game as he has now the Spurs ratings would be different?

    You're seriously clueless. Thats okay, though. Youre a homer. Most avid fans are.

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    Your players dont want "the spotlight"?

    Wasnt Tony Parker married to Eva Longoria? Doesnt Tony Parker have rap albums?
    He stayed in San Antonio though, so it's not the only priority for him.

    And still lol @ this thread.

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    I'll always remember and treasure the special, timeless moments when my NBA team raised those 4 "Top Ratings on ABC" banners from the rafters! It is an emotional time for any community of fans. And the dream of every young child growing up is to wear the "Top TV Ratings ring", the ultimate goal in compe ive sports. Many are called but few are chosen.

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    He stayed in San Antonio though, so it's not the only priority for him.

    And still lol @ this thread.
    Maybe. I dont really care. Whether or not Spurs "choose" to be boring or "classy" is a different subject.

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    Maybe. I dont really care. Whether or not Spurs "choose" to be boring or "classy" is a different subject.
    It's very clear you care very much about the Spurs and their fans.

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    ABC record rating for game 1:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...8351--nba.html

    Interesting excerpt:



    They forgot to mention Spurs/Cleveland which was the record low (beating out Spurs/Nets and Spurs/Pistons) but no matter. In one game OKC proved that in this day of global media, local market sizes have nothing to do with national interest.
    Lol who cares dude. Quit trolling the Spurs Dynasty cause they always beat your team. No one cares about your opinion.

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    This thread fails to deliver on its central premise. I don't think the majority of Spurs fans have ever considered the Spurs' "boring" reputation as an outgrowth of being a small market. Rather, based on every observation I've ever made, it would seem that Spurs fans are happy to accept that the playing style of those early to mid 2000s teams was far from what the casual NBA fan was seeking. They were willing to accept the media-bestowed reputation and its resultant ratings slump because it was a championship formula, not a popularity formula.

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    Your players dont want "the spotlight"?

    Wasnt Tony Parker married to Eva Longoria? Doesnt Tony Parker have rap albums?

    Excactly what is it about Durant's "personality" that makes him exciting? I thought it was his game that I loved to watch. Youre telling me that if Duncan had the same "personality" as Durant but the exact same game as he has now the Spurs ratings would be different?

    You're seriously clueless. Thats okay, though. Youre a homer. Most avid fans are.
    So getting married is illegal and having a hobby is wrong? Also homer naw bro just being honest. Also did you not see Durant in the summer time? He was all over the place.

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    Its market size + marketability of team's stars. If Durant played exactly the way he plays now but his last name was Ddorgiovic no one would give that big a about it. If Westbrook was named Sun Yule...same deal. American players are easier to market.
    Outside of Ricky Rubio, there aren't any international players heavily marketed.
    If the Spurs did exactly the same thing they did but was based in New York...they'd be legendary.

    But you should know that already right?
    Last edited by Man In Black; 06-13-2012 at 10:44 PM.

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    This thread fails to deliver on its central premise. I don't think the majority of Spurs fans have ever considered the Spurs' "boring" reputation as an outgrowth of being a small market. Rather, based on every observation I've ever made, it would seem that Spurs fans are happy to accept that the playing style of those early to mid 2000s teams was far from what the casual NBA fan was seeking. They were willing to accept the media-bestowed reputation and its resultant ratings slump because it was a championship formula, not a popularity formula.


    1) So you claim that Spurs fans are under the opinion that their team failed to get finals ratings because of their small market size? I have 7 years of threads from this board to dispute that.

    2) Love the "Spurs teams of the early to mid-2000s" were boring. This is the classic "the spurs USED to be boring but not NOW" argument.

    Fun fact: Spurs' lowest rating was in 2007 and highest rating was in 1999. The Spurs are just as boring today as they were in 2007, 2004, 2002 etc etc

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    Its market size + marketability of team's stars. If Durant played exactly the way he plays now but his last name was Ddorgiovic no one would give that big a about it. If Westbrook was named Sun Yule...same deal.
    If the Spurs did exactly the same thing they did but was based in New York...they'd be legendary.

    But you should know that already right?
    Dirk ing Nowitzki just destroys that argument.

    And tell that to Jeremy Lin and Yao Ming.

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    1) So you claim that Spurs fans are under the opinion that their team failed to get finals ratings because of their small market size? I have 7 years of threads from this board to dispute that.

    2) Love the "Spurs teams of the early to mid-2000s" were boring. This is the classic "the spurs USED to be boring but not NOW" argument.

    Fun fact: Spurs' lowest rating was in 2007 and highest rating was in 1999. The Spurs are just as boring today as they were in 2007, 2004, 2002 etc etc
    When labels stick they stick like phx forever being a mediocre franchise it just sticks.

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    Dirk ing Nowitzki just destroys that argument.

    And tell that to Jeremy Lin and Yao Ming.
    Dallas, New York and Houston are what market size? Try again dumbass.

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    When labels stick they stick like phx forever being a mediocre franchise it just sticks.
    Ive never heard "mediocre". I heard "Soft" for the last twenty years and that they have the worst owner in the league.

    But this thread isnt about the Suns.

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    Dallas, New York and Houston are what market size? Try again dumbass.
    Whoa! YOU said that it was all in the players name. That is, if Durant had some "Dragomicnoic" type name that no one would give a !

    THen I point out players with odd names who have huge national interest and you go back to M-M-M-Market sizes!!

    MARKET SIZES DONT MATTER!!!

    Highest NBA finals ever: Chicago-Utah.

    "Blocking" for Chicago, we see that the Salt Lake City/Chicago matchup drew more interest than Seattle/Chicago, Phoenix/Chicago, Portland/Chicago and even Los Angeles/Chicago.

    Likewise, Orlando/Houston drew a larger rating than New York/Houston in back-to-back years. Do you have ANY IDEA how much bigger New York is than Orlando?

    Market. Sizes. Dont. Matter.

    Facts are facts.

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    Wrong again head. Jeremy Lin did what for 3 weeks. He balled. If he had been doing exactly the same thing in Milwaukee it would have gone largely unnoticed. Reality.

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    Love how you conveniently point out NY HOU B2B 94 and 95 but leave out that Jordan had decided to leave the Bulls to try and play baseball.

    Keep.on twisting.the.facts.

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    Wrong again head. Jeremy Lin did what for 3 weeks. He balled. If he had been doing exactly the same thing in Milwaukee it would have gone largely unnoticed. Reality.
    Nonsense. It might have not been AS big of a story but some Asian kid no ones heard of going off night after night would be national news, regardless of location.

    And Kevin Durant is national icon playing in Oklahoma City. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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    Love how you conveniently point out NY HOU but leave out that Jordan had decided to leave the Bulls to try and play baseball.

    Keep.on twisting.the.facts
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    Holy are you stupid.

    I was comparing Houston/NY to Houston/Orlando.

    The fact that the latter brought a better rating shows that market sizes dont matter when it comes to national interest. Orlando is a tenth the size of NY.

    Michael Jordan's whereabouts have absolutely NOTHING to do with 1994 vs 1995 rating and whether market sizes affect ratings.

    Please slap yourself in the face for being so ing dumb.

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    Spurs Heat would have done a little lower than that but still good..


    in trolls..

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    Nonsense. It might have not been AS big of a story but some Asian kid no ones heard of going off night after night would be national news, regardless of location.

    And Kevin Durant is national icon playing in Oklahoma City. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
    Bull on every level. French dude was the best pg in the l this year and didn't get the time of day. RECOGNIZE BIATCH!

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    Man in Black is proving that the Texas education system is sorely lacking.

    How the does Michael Jordan's baseball career change the fact that Orlando brought a bigger rating against Houston than New York did?

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