Check your history. Mikan dominated more than anyone.
Kudos.I watched a bunch of Mikan videos a few years ago and gained massive respect for him. It's trippy to think about 1950s American culture and how basketball was just becoming popular.
And I remember learning the "Mikan drill" back in grade school.
Mikan was the most influential player of all time as well.
You mean when there were 8 teams?
Be real. No disrespect to Mikan, but you obviously don't use the same standards as everyone else when you call Mikan the most dominant player ever. Might as well say Naismith was, since no one could score before he created the game.
You: Lebron's GM and coach tendencies are detractors
Me: Timmy should have been more vocal to get more help
You: Root for Lebron if you want
I just it would not had made much of a difference.
1944 - George Mikan NCAA college player of year as sop re
1945 - Mikan NCAA player of year, national scoring leader, NIT champion, NIT MVP
1946 - NCAA national scoring leader
1947 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL champion
1948 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL MVP, NBL champion,
1949 - BAA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, Wins Shares leader in regular season & playoffs, BAA champion
1950 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season & playoffs, NBA champion
1951 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season, broke leg in playoffs
1952 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/points per game/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS in playoffs, NBA champion
1953 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion, All-star MVP
1954 - NBA PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion
1955 - retired with 10 broken bones and 11 years of domination.
No one has ever come close to dominating this much for so long.
Name one.
Plus: the goaltending rule, the shot clock, and the lane being wider than 3 feet were all caused by Mikan.
They had to keep the ball away from him to win! One game ended 19-18 as a result, which pretty much inspired the concept of the shot clock.
What the...?
And the 3-second rule, too.
There were 12 teams in the league.. 12
YMCA teams today would thrash them, repeatedly.
Bill Russell.
The concept of dominance is relative to context, folks.
Nobody thinks Mikan would win against more modern players. The point is that he dominated his compe ion more than anyone else dominated their compe ion in the game of basketball.
Russell had Wilt. Mikan had nobody else on his level.
Bill Russell was not even as good as Wilt Chamberlain, many believe. To dominate you must be clearly the best.
You asked who has come close to matching it and you got your answer. That you subjectively think someone else was better at the time has nothing to do with it. If Chamberlain had played in Mikan's time, would he have the same level of accomplishments or even be considered better?
If Mikan got better medical care instead of that 1940s crap, he would still be dominating. He blew out his knee and couldn't walk for years when he was a kid when he grew up, and got 10 broken bones in the NBA. I'd like to see a sissy like Lebron or Wilt play in the 1940s with the horrid, almost medieval medical care that went on.
There were 12 teams in the league.. 12
YMCA teams today would thrash them, repeatedly.todays soy eating YMCA's taking on Wilt.
remember the ol days when Lakers fans were trying to argue about Kobe being > Lebron...
Yeah, they are still doing it today.remember the ol days when Lakers fans were trying to argue about Kobe being > Lebron...
If Lebron loses this series he will be closer to a perenial Finals loser than a goat tbqh
MJ had 6 finals appearances and 6 les
You cant come back with anything to counter that given Lebron would be 3-5
He's already 3-5. He'll be 3-6 now.
MJ would have been obliterated by the teams LeBron has faced in the Finals
UPDATING CHART:
1944 - George Mikan NCAA college player of year as sop re
1945 - Mikan NCAA player of year, national scoring leader, NIT champion, NIT MVP
1946 - NCAA national scoring leader, MVP of WPBT
1947 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL champion
1948 - NBL scoring leader regular season & playoffs, NBL MVP, NBL champion, WPBT champion, WPBT MVP, WPBT leading scorer
1949 - BAA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, Wins Shares leader in regular season & playoffs, BAA champion
1950 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season & playoffs, NBA champion
1951 - NBA scoring leader regular season & playoffs, WS leader in regular season, broke leg in playoffs
1952 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/points per game/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS in playoffs, NBA champion
1953 - NBA rebounding/PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/rebounds per game/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion, All-star MVP
1954 - NBA PER leader, NBA leader in points/rebounds/WS/PER in playoffs, NBA champion
1955 - retired with 10 broken bones and 11 years of domination.
Why are you using MJ in your example and not Bill Russell? Isn't he the GOAT?
Got to rap with 4 year Stanford player today.
We both lamented what a burn job the refs did on what was an epic performance by LeBron in Game 1.
One for the ages really.
Combined with got Durant will not be remembered for his charge / choke turnover against the King. Not that it was a terrible play by Durbetta but
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