And the starting PG on your 2012 NBA champion is...

**DUNCANownsKOBE** · 06-22-2012

Originally Posted by Spurs da champs

LeBron is more of the Heat PG then Chalmers don't deny it, Chalmers is mostly just a spot up shooter.

So basically what you're saying is the Heat won by making their starting point guard a spot up shooter who plays mostly off ball while they made their 6'8" 260 pound small forward the play maker who has the ball at important times.

Thanks for only adding onto my argument

**mercos** · 06-22-2012

Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

Point guard is the player who starts at point guard, which obviously isn't Lebron since he starts at forward.

Please tell me, are point guards generally of the 6'8" 260 pound stature? Do you legitimately consider Lebron a point guard who debunks my theory that the Chris Pauls, Rajon Rondos, Steve Nashs, and Derrick Roses of the NBA will never lead a team to a championship? It's obvious you're being purposefully obtuse to try and dispute an argumen you can't dispute with a logical and intellectually honest counter. It's intellectually dishonest to say, "Hurp durp Lebron handles the ball and runs the offense so he's a PG who proves you're theory wrong hurp durp!" Most of the time people who grasp at straws to dispute my PG theory have a short man's complex which is why they're in loves with point guards because they like seeing successful short people. I'm guessing you're one of them.

No, and I never said he was of that ilk. Generally, point guards are short, fast players, but as Magic Johnson proved that doesn't have to be the case. I actually agree with your theory overall, especially after seeing the way the Spurs were dismantled this year in the Conference Finals. Basketball is a big man's game, that much has been obvious since the sport was invented. I only disagree with using Miami as an example, because Lebron is the de facto point guard of that team. He is an abberation, an exception to the rule because he is a point guard trapped in a power forward's body.

**lefty** · 06-22-2012

Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

Which point guards other than Isiah and Magic have been the best player on a championship team? The NBA has more talent at the PG position than it has in its history, yet Mario Chalmers is still winning a championship. Magic and Isiah were the exceptions, not the standard.

Bob Cousy, Walt Frazier

And there is no standard anyway

Sometimes its a C (Hakeem) sometimes its a SG ( Jordan), SF (Bird), a PF (Tim) or a PG

There is no hard rule

**DUNCANownsKOBE** · 06-22-2012

Originally Posted by lefty

Bob Cousy, Walt Frazier

Bob Cousy won championships in a prehistoric league that had like 8 teams and didn't play basketball at all like it's played today

. His teams also had like 4+ hall of famers on all of them. Do you really think Bob Cousy was any better than CP3 or Deron Williams and do you really think he'd be capable of leading a team to a championship in today's NBA?

Regardless, just for the sake of argument, what year was Cousy the best player on one of Boston's le teams? I can't wait to hear this.

Regarding Frazier, I'll give you 1973, but lets not forget how stacked it was. DeBusschere, Monroe, Bradley, Reed (old though), etc. That team was more loaded than any salary cap era team ever will be.

**Clipper Nation** · 06-22-2012

Also, neither team had any great centers in this series tbh... that doesn't mean you can't build a championship team around a center... positions are kind of overrated in basketball nowadays anyway since there's mad versatile players in the league now...

**DUNCANownsKOBE** · 06-22-2012

acting like my theory is based off just this series and not the last 20+ years.

worried my theory is correct because it means the Clips aren't winning as currently constructed

**lefty** · 06-22-2012

Originally Posted by DUNCANownsKOBE

Bob Cousy won championships in a prehistoric league that had like 8 teams and didn't play basketball at all like it's played today

. His teams also had like 4+ hall of famers on all of them. Do you really think Bob Cousy was any better than CP3 or Deron Williams and do you really think he'd be capable of leading a team to a championship in today's NBA?

Regardless, just for the sake of argument, what year was Cousy the best player on one of Boston's le teams? I can't wait to hear this.

Regarding Frazier, I'll give you 1973, but lets not forget how stacked it was. DeBusschere, Monroe, Bradley, Reed (old though), etc. That team was more loaded than any salary cap era team ever will be.

You agreed with me on Magic, but the Lakers were stacked too