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    Im just astonished at how people on here are so high on Dragic that they act like 10M to him is not really a big deal. He is a talented guy, but giving him 10M is way too much IMO for someone that has not proven anything on a consistent basis.

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    Im just astonished at how people on here are so high on Dragic that they act like 10M to him is not really a big deal. He is a talented guy, but giving him 10M is way too much IMO for someone that has not proven anything on a consistent basis.
    I agree, but, in a market where Omar Asik is getting over $8M a year, $10M a year for Dragic isn't a big deal. He's proven a lot more than Asik, most notably that he's MORE efficient when given a bigger role and more minutes.

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    10 million for one season wouldn't be bad. His production from last season warrants it. But for 4 years it would be too much considering he didn't nearly as much in his first 3 seasons. I think 4 years 30 million is fair. But some team will give him 4 years 40 million.

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    I'd say he is a 6m dollar player.

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    Don't get me started on det

    I'm at least glad to see they're going after Dragic and not afraid to admit mistake
    Don't feel too bad about it, we traded Dragic as a throw-in to NO for Gasol last year

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    I agree, but, in a market where Omar Asik is getting over $8M a year, $10M a year for Dragic isn't a big deal. He's proven a lot more than Asik, most notably that he's MORE efficient when given a bigger role and more minutes.
    Yup, his production last season warrants 10 million a year, especially of guys like Asik are getting 8 million a season. I think 4 years 40 million is too much since he didn't as much the previous seasons, but based on last season alone, he's worth 10 million. If he can match what he did last season for the next few seasons, then 10 million a year will easily be worth it.

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    Sure, but he hasn't done that consistently and if you aren't a big and you aren't top 10 in your position, you don't get double digits IMO.

    Also, people can't use one stupid contract (Asik) for everything.

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    Yup, his production last season warrants 10 million a year, especially of guys like Asik are getting 8 million a season. I think 4 years 40 million is too much since he didn't as much the previous seasons, but based on last season alone, he's worth 10 million. If he can match what he did last season for the next few seasons, then 10 million a year will easily be worth it.
    TP was making 12M a year - that comparision is more reliable and Dragic is no where near TP.

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    Also, people can't use one stupid contract (Asik) for everything.


    They've been using the Gasol trade to LA as justification for every stupid trade scenario since 2008.

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    I'd say he is a 6m dollar player.
    Not if you look at last season's production. That's easily worth more than 6-7 million, especially in the current market. Jarrett Jack is almost making 6 million for the Hornets and his production hasn't approached what Dragic did last season. The only problem with Dragic is he has done that only for one season instead of 3-4 seasons.

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    Dragic was consistently and 18 point 8 assist player when he got the minutes last year. He's not worth $10M imo, but to harp on it as if it's a crazy albatross deal is stupid. Dragic for $10M a year doesn't even sniff some of the other deals given out recently.

    Laundry Fields getting 3 years $20M is a lot dumber. Eric Gordon getting a max deal is WAY dumber.

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    TP was making 12M a year - that comparision is more reliable and Dragic is no where near TP.
    TP's 4yr/50M (41.5M guaranteed) extension is looking pretty good at this point.

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    They've been using the Gasol trade to LA as justification for every stupid trade scenario since 2008.
    True

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    TP's 4yr/50M (41.5M guaranteed) extension is looking pretty good at this point.
    We all knew how amazing of a deal that was the second he signed it, but wow, you are right - looking like a complete steal now.

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    Nash for 3 years, $36,000,000 is also much dumber than Dragic @ $10m a year

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    Dragic was consistently and 18 point 8 assist player when he got the minutes last year. He's not worth $10M imo, but to harp on it as if it's a crazy albatross deal is stupid. Dragic for $10M a year doesn't even sniff some of the other deals given out recently.

    Laundry Fields getting 3 years $20M is a lot dumber. Eric Gordon getting a max deal is WAY dumber.
    I agree Fields is dumber, but that doesn't make this deal smart. Disagree with Gordon, because the max offer he got was not from his own team and while he is injured often - he has proven to have elite talent as a starter for multiple years.

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    I agree Fields is dumber, but that doesn't make this deal smart. Disagree with Gordon, because the max offer he got was not from his own team and while he is injured often - he has proven to have elite talent as a starter for multiple years.
    He played 9 games last year . For all the griping you did about Amare getting the max after a perfectly healthy year taking his team to the WCF, Eric Gordon getting a max deal after playing 9 games makes sense to you . That's not a bias at all.

    Dragic also has yet to get a $10M a year offer. His agent who's known as a crazy European hard ass asking for $10M a year doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

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    He played 9 games last year . For all the griping you did about Amare getting the max after a perfectly healthy year taking his team to the WCF, Eric Gordon getting a max deal after playing 9 games makes sense to you . That's not a bias at all.

    Dragic also has yet to get a $10M a year offer. His agent who's known as a crazy European hard ass asking for $10M a year doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
    Dude, what don't you understand about the difference in the size of amare's max offer and Gordon's? They aren't even close

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    Dude, what don't you understand about the difference in the size of amare's max offer and Gordon's? They aren't even close
    as if they should be? Amare is a much better player than Gordon. Commtting $100M to Amare is much smarter than committing $60M to Gordon.

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    Dragic also has yet to get a $10M a year offer. His agent who's known as a crazy European hard ass asking for $10M a year doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
    Agreed, but that wasnt the point of what I said. I said that in theory, people acting like 10M for Goran isnt a little crazy surprised me. And I like Goran as a player.

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    Agreed, but that wasnt the point of what I said. I said that in theory, people acting like 10M for Goran isnt a little crazy surprised me. And I like Goran as a player.
    You acting like it's THAT far away from the norm of what free agents are getting is what I don't get. It's pretty standard compared to what other players are getting.

    Maybe if Goran played 9 games last year he'd get the max.

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    as if they should be? Amare is a much better player than Gordon. Commtting $100M to Amare is much smarter than committing $60M to Gordon.
    Ok. I never said they should be. I am stating facts. Me thinking 100M to Amare doesn't compare to 55M for Gordon isn't apples to apples and you are trying to use one argument where it is really not applicable.

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    $55M to an undersized shooting guard who played 9 games last year and has never been in the playoffs

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    You acting like it's THAT far away from the norm of what free agents are getting is what I don't get. It's pretty standard compared to what other players are getting.

    Maybe if Goran played 9 games last year he'd get the max.
    Goran has started a whopping 36 games in his career and played an average of 19 MPG.

    Gordon has started 190 games with a 35 MPG average (in the same time frame).

    Yes, Goran was behind Nash - but that is kind of the point. Gordon, even with injuries is much more proven than Goran.

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    You keep saying "the max", the Suns offer is not the Max for Gordon. His "max" can only come from NO.

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